2014/15 tax codes

2014/15 tax codes

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Anyone else having the same problem as me?  I have a lot of directors who have been empoyed by their company with no other employment for various amounts of time.  And HMRC has suddenly started issuing loads of 14/15 tax cdoes showing either BR or around 700T.  In all cases, when I call HMRC they say this employment has been set up as a secondary employment.  Nothing whatsoever has changed, its just their system doing something odd.  When I try to question why it keeps happening they are stonewalling me, saying they really don't know why its happening.  Anyone else getting these erroneous codes?  I am pretty sick of the time wasting this is causing.

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Chris M
By mr. mischief
19th Mar 2014 08:39

Yes it is a total meltdown!

See earlier posts.  Yes I am getting these too, as well as all the other tosh in the system.  It's a load of utter drivel.  Inexcusable, what is the point of RTI if they are going to ignore the last 12 months' submissions when doing the PAYE codes?

I hope and believe this drivel will apply with roughly the same frequency to large employers.  if true, finally people with big enough boots will start kicking HMRC over the next few months on the shambles they've made of this.

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By The Innkeeper
19th Mar 2014 08:56

I think


HMRC have a policy of ' if it ain't broke lets break it'

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By dnicholson
19th Mar 2014 10:02

Payroll ID
Probably there's been an RTI filing with an incorrect payroll ID, which has caused a second employment to be set up.

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By Euan MacLennan
19th Mar 2014 10:21

I agree

dnicholson wrote:
Probably there's been an RTI filing with an incorrect payroll ID, which has caused a second employment to be set up.

By any chance, were the payrolls switched onto different payroll software in the middle of the 2013/14 tax year?

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By Kazmc
19th Mar 2014 10:24

amended information?

Isn't it the case also that duplicate employments can be automatically set up by HMRC if you amend a date of birth or other key information?

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By User deleted
19th Mar 2014 12:04

Admit it -

They are idiots.   I have experienced the same just a few weeks ago.  Company director client is on the payroll, all being dealt with properly, on time RTI submissions etc., The client has received a coding notice adjusting his code to take account of the Jobseekers Allowance he is receiving !  I wrote to HMRC, gently informing them that people on Jobseekers are not employed, could they please, when they have a spare moment, issue the correct code.  They did, and very promptly, but no apology.

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Stepurhan
By stepurhan
19th Mar 2014 12:20

IS receiving?

Mathswizard wrote:
They are idiots.   I have experienced the same just a few weeks ago.  Company director client is on the payroll, all being dealt with properly, on time RTI submissions etc., The client has received a coding notice adjusting his code to take account of the Jobseekers Allowance he is receiving !  I wrote to HMRC, gently informing them that people on Jobseekers are not employed, could they please, when they have a spare moment, issue the correct code.  They did, and very promptly, but no apology.
Silly question I am sure, but I assume you mean Jobseekers Allowance they thought he was receiving not "Jobseekers Allowance he is receiving as you stated. An important distinction to be sure.

You can usually get coding notices corrected promptly over the phone. Any reason you took the slow route in this case?

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By User deleted
19th Mar 2014 12:36

Dear Stepurhan

Their coding notice referred to "is receiving" (it actually said "in receipt of"), suggesting that he was currently unemployed and in receipt of benefit which needed to be taxed through his employment which is totally barmy.  I write to have a clear paper trail, takes longer but I get proof. The Agent Priority Line is usually manned by nice people but they often do not have a clue and it has to be referred to "the back office", which always seems slightly sinister to me, where is this back office, who is in it ?  Is this where all our mail goes to awaiting attention ?

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Stepurhan
By stepurhan
19th Mar 2014 12:56

Proof for what?

Mathswizard wrote:
Their coding notice referred to "is receiving" (it actually said "in receipt of"), suggesting that he was currently unemployed and in receipt of benefit which needed to be taxed through his employment which is totally barmy.
That's what I thought, but the way you wrote it sounded like a reflection of reality, not what the coding notice said.

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I write to have a clear paper trail, takes longer but I get proof.
Proof for what exactly? All a coding notice does is affect what tax is taken up front, not what tax your client ends up paying in the end. You will have the original coding notice and will get a copy of the new coding notice, so you already have proof that the code was incorrect and needed changing. What does putting the request in writing prove, other than the manner in which you requested the correction? My experience of correcting coding notices over the telephone is completely different to yours. They have just run through things likely to affect coding (like checking income isn't at a level that would restrict personal allowance) and then issue the coding changes straight away. Your way could result in your client getting tax deducted for months unnecessarily.

Unless, of course, you are ignoring coding notices entirely in this situation. That is, of course, technically illegal, though whether anyone would be bothered enough to prosecute you for it is another matter.

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By smooreaccountancy
19th Mar 2014 15:00

Same here...

We have had quite a few PAYE notices come through this week, ranging from a stupid code for a director who was higher rate employed in 2012/13 (and hadn't been in 2013/14) to BR and D0 codes for employees with one job only and fully filed RTI submissions.

Simple calls to HMRC Agent line have rectified it, but that's time wasted for errors which should never have occurred. 

*rant over!*

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By markabacus
20th Mar 2014 13:38

My wife & I too

Just rec'd coding notices for my wife and I, both BR.

Rang agents helpline, advised that our business was set for me as my second employment, seemingly my primary one was a company I worked for 10 yrs ago!!

My wife's was even better, secondary was our business, primary was BLANK

Suggested to nice lady on the helpdesk she cld be busy!

Oh dear oh dear

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