Carrier Bags

Carrier Bags

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If a bookshop provides carrier bags to customers at a charge of 5p per bag would the bags be VATable?

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By Euan MacLennan
30th Sep 2011 10:54

Yes, probably

Books are zero-rated and carrier bags would be standard-rated.  If the supply of the bag was ancillary to the sale of the book, it might be possible to zero-rate the 5p.  However, if they are being charged for it, I assume that not every customer will want a bag, so I think that the sale of the bag is separate to the sale of the book and VAT should be paid out of the 5p.

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By Constantly Confused
30th Sep 2011 10:55

Interesting...

I imagine the bookshop pays VAT when it buys them, I don't see why they shouldn't charge VAT on their sale.

But the word 'bag' doesn't appear in 7A, 8 or 9, so I'm not sure!

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By listerramjet
30th Sep 2011 11:09

is it a sale?

sounds more like an environmental levy (tax) to me.  Although tax on taxes is nothing new.  How about a (charity) collecting tin on the counter - and make it a voluntary contribution.

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By sigonella
30th Sep 2011 12:17

Yes
See HMRC Brief 23/11 regarding the treatment of the 5p levy introduced by the Welsh Assembly on 'single-use' carrier bags. ´

It is unlikley that HMRC would accept that the bag would be zero-rated as part of the supply of a zero-rated book as the purchase of the bag is presumably optional.

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By Peter The Painter
30th Sep 2011 12:40

HMRC have addressed the issue in Wales.

Have a look at Revenue and Customs Brief 23/11.

The position is slightly different in Wales, but the principle that Euan suggests, i.e. that the bag is supplied separately from the goods inside it, is being applied

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By listerramjet
30th Sep 2011 13:03

so HMRC have addressed the issue

and unsurprisingly their view is that it is vatable.  That is such a big surprise!!!!!!!!!!!

Listening between the lines on this on the Today programme this morning, it would seem the Welsh carrier bag levy is supposed to be a compulsory levy, but largely unenforceable.  And they are expecting the proceeds to be (voluntarily) donated to charity.  So if you collect it seperately for identifiable charities then I don't see how it can be a taxable supply.

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