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Clients

Fairly random question.

Interested in how others count the number of clients they have.

Say you have a client who has two companies and you also do his/her SATR, do you count that as 1, 2 or 3 clients?

Me, I'd count it as 1.

Just wondering what others do...

Maybe I'm bigger that I thought ;o)

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I would count as 1,2,3 - clearly different entities, meaning different excuses not to pay :)

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In your example i would count this as 3.

Sole trader where i do the accounts and tax return count as 1.

Dont have any partnerships but if did and had 2 partners then supposed would count as 3 being one for the accounts/partnership tax return and one each for each partners individual tax return.

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3 for me

I'd count that as three too - 2 limited companies and 1 individual SAR

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I count my clients by the number of invoicing entities.  In your example I would send 3 bills out so it counts as 3 clients to me.

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I'm with the OP

That's one client for me. The way I see it, that may be 3 entities each with their own deadlines but the client himself won't see it that way and it's impractical to track the time / tasks / correspondence etc separately for each of those jobs.

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What about fees per client

So, those who count fees per client.

Using the example in the OP

1. Company 1 - annual fee £900

2. Company 2 - annual fee £750

3. SATR - annual fee £150

Total fees £1,800

So average fee £600 per client?

I'd treat it is as £1,800 from one client.

I think counting the client as one is more appropriate. on the basis that if you lose one element of the above, you'd probably lose the whole lot.

It isn't really three seperate clients.

 

 

 

 

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do guys actually send invoices to the director for the tax return (£100?) rather than roll the time into the company (naughty, naughty?)

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Outrageous suggestion

blok wrote:

do guys actually send invoices to the director for the tax return (£100?) rather than roll the time into the company (naughty, naughty?)

No comment

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It can go either way

If they sold one company you would still have the other company and the SATR.

I would count as 3 clients.

Has anyone ever purchased/sold fees? How would it count for those purposes? I assume company accounts/tax would have a better value than SATR's for the purpose of purchasing fees.

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but if you lost one client

You'd lose them all.  I would count as 1 in terms of how many clients I have (and could lose) but it is 3 bills.

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I go by how many "clients" I have by my PM software

Therefore I think of 200 clients but I may only deal with 100 separate people.

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I go by entity....

Ltd Co 1...one client, Ltd Co 2....one client.... sole trade with accounts....one client.....that makes 3 (good job my casio calculator was to hand.....)....

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I suddenly have more clients than I thought I had :-)

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see Sarah.....you don't

need a marketing expert to show you how to double the size of your practice in overnight.....(I call it value sizing your practice....)

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Where is the value?

justsotax wrote:

 

see Sarah.....you don't

need a marketing expert to show you how to double the size of your practice in overnight.....(I call it value sizing your practice....)

 

Don't tell Bob that!  He would charge you a nice fat added value amount to increase your client base overnight!

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Bob

MissAccounting wrote:

 

Don't tell Bob that!  He would charge you a nice fat added value amount to increase your client base overnight!

 

Don't think he's here anymore...

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hmmm well wasn't sure whether

 to post such comments as the value pricing posts got pulled the other day.....

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Moderating

According to Henry they are still moderating it!

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....oh dear.....can i expect

a pm from him warning me not to bring into question other peoples approaches in future....!?

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