FRS102 1a

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Even after numerous courses I am still confused about the new standards and how they fit with current clients.  Is it possible that the simplest clients wouldnt have any transitional adjustments whatsoever? No payroll, so no holiday accrual, no assets so no revaluations, no properties......it just seems too simply that there isnt anything to change on these types of clients.

Also, with clients with small brought forward assets (office equipment etc) Do these have to be revalued???

Is there any online stuff that actually makes sense of this for the smaller companies.  They are not really suited to FRS105, so dont really want to go there.

Thank you in advance!!

 

 

 

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By Mr_awol
27th Mar 2017 15:37

Yes

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By KAT49
27th Mar 2017 15:49

Yes - what?

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By johngroganjga
27th Mar 2017 15:41

Have you not been on any courses? It's probably a bad idea to try and pick it up as you go along.

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By KAT49
27th Mar 2017 15:48

Yes, I have been on a few and they mostly relate to larger companies and the stuff relating to smaller companies just doesn't seem relevant to the clients we have. I am honestly not trying to wing it, but it is totally confusing me. I though it might help to have practical suggestions from others in the same boat....

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By DJKL
27th Mar 2017 15:52

I believe there is an out re revaluation of plant etc under FRS102, 17.5 and 17.5A

17.15 An entity shall measure all items of property, plant and equipment after initial
recognition using the cost model (in accordance with paragraph 17.15A) or the
revaluation model (in accordance with paragraphs 17.15B to 17.15F). Where the
revaluation model is selected, this shall be applied to all items of property, plant and
equipment in the same class (ie having a similar nature, function or use in the
business). An entity shall recognise the costs of day-to-day servicing of an item of
property, plant and equipment in profit or loss in the period in which the costs are
incurred.

Cost model
17.15A Under the cost model, an entity shall measure an item of property, plant and
equipment at cost less any accumulated

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By SJRUK
27th Mar 2017 16:27

I'm finding that for the type of clients you are referring to above there aren't any adjustments other than a simple Employee note and the relevant wording being changed.

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By jon_griffey
27th Mar 2017 16:47

There was a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth, and consequently seminars sold when FRS102 came in. In my experience, the very limited disclosures required under FRS102 1A is a massive simplification from FRSSE. Most small, plain vanilla clients do not appear to require any transitional adjustments.

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By mike_uk_1983
29th Mar 2017 16:20

I think there has been a lot of people scared of FRS 102 for no reason and mainly because they haven't read it.

For a lot of companies there will be no changes to the numbers and it will only be disclosure which will appear differently. You just need to do a review on each client to ensure you don't miss the one client which does have a transitional adjustment.

If you were dealing with it properly this review would have been done at transition date or at very least prior period as there were/are opportunities with some clients to choose favourable accounting policies.

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By Nigel Hughes
29th Mar 2017 17:28

I've now reviewed a number of files prepared using FRS102 and I have been (pleasantly) surprised, as stated by others on this thread, how often there are no adjustments to make. The main culprit is the fraught subject of investment properties, otherwise the transition is often quite painless.

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By North East Accountant
30th Mar 2017 09:52

I suspect a lot of accounts will be filed with no transitional adjustments even when they do need them.

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