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Background

My clients (husband and wife now retired) were directors / employees of a limited company in the late 1980's and a Pension Scheme was constituted in their names by Trust Deed on 7 June 1988. They were taxed on pre A-day employer contributions and the employment relationship between the members (my clients) and employer has long since ceased.

They understand that (pre- A Day), this scheme was a FURB.
 

In the early 90's they lent c£70k cash from the scheme to another private limited company ( in 2 similar tranches/ agreements). In the period from April 92, interest on the loans was rolled-up by the private limited company, but not paid (with permission from the Pension Scheme).

In 2011, my clients acquired land in a separate transaction, the purchase price of which was paid direct from the private limited company in full and final settlement of the pension scheme loan principal (c£70k) and most of the interest (c£30k).
 

Direction Required

1) Interest paid to the pension was paid gross – presumably, the pension scheme should pay tax at trust rates on this income?

2) My clients have effectively drawn down the pension scheme (principal and most of the gross interest earned) to acquire the land referenced above. Can you confirm that my clients (under FURB rules; as now superceded by EFRBS rules?) can withdraw the full lump-sum of the pension principal tax free.

3) Separately, there appears to be some confusion over whether the land should have been registered in my clients own name (meaning an effective near total withdrawal from the FURB arrangement) OR if there would have been significant IHT benefits for leaving the monies in the scheme ?

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22nd Dec 2012 11:50

1. The requirement to deduct income tax, at the basic rate, will apply, as it is being paid to a  pension scheme. that is not registered. So it should have dedcuted tax at 20%.

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22nd Dec 2012 12:05

2. If the payment was made before A day, then the comany would have obtained a tax deduction, and the emoloyee would have been taxed on it. As I understand it, this will mean, as long as no further payments have been made, that the lump sum can be withdrawn tax free.

however, taxation of FURBS is a complex area, and I would strongly recommend that you seek advice of a pensions expert!

 

 

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