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HMRC bank acct verification emails : SCAM or..

client filed vat return online, for a very small refund due

this occurs occasionally [ ie refund ], and funds are remitted direct to the same account for which HMRC draw payment when payments are due

today apparenty have received 2 notifications  from    [email protected]         

to verify the bank account

Seems rather  bizarre given that HMRC have recently over the past 2 quarters refunded and drawn funds from the account which has long been setup with them

Any thoughts greatly appreciated

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29th May 2012 11:59

It is a bit worrying..

If this is genuine, I find it worrying, given the history of scam e-mails allegedly from HMRC requesting bank details. 

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29th May 2012 12:09

Helpful blog

The IT Guy recently put up an AWEB blog about phishing and issues with messages that claim to come from HMRC - there are a few tips to help you spot then. It may also be worth contacting HMRC directly to ask whether the email is legit. 

 

Good luck :-)

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29th May 2012 14:18

interestingly - that email was after refund return filed

thanks for comments above thus far

it was just very interesting that this was received the day after lodging an online refund return - so where did the SPAMMER get the details from to email ?  HMRC data being stolen / passed on illegally - i know this has been a regular cause for consternation on the site here over recent months - but  could imply someone is inside hmrc providing data for this 'scam'  if that is indeed what  this could be

will go into the gov gateway and just check the details are still there shortly !

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29th May 2012 14:28

Playing the odds

I have received one of these yet I have had no refunds due, nor do I even own a company. 

The reality is if you send out enough emails you will hit eventually, that is what they rely on.

 

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01st Jun 2012 11:45

Worrying trend

Last July we had a client forward an email concerning a repayment that was worryingly similar to an actual repayment due to that client.  Yesterday we had exactly the same thing happen to another client for a significantly different figure from the first email, but again very close to the actual repayment due to that client.  Once I could accept as a coincidence, but to randomly email somebody actually expecting a repayment and to be within 10% of the actual repayment due....the odds on doing that must be very slim

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By DMGbus
01st Jun 2012 18:22

Fraud by HMRC employees

Paula Sparrow wrote:

Last July we had a client forward an email concerning a repayment that was worryingly similar to an actual repayment due to that client.  Yesterday we had exactly the same thing happen to another client for a significantly different figure from the first email, but again very close to the actual repayment due to that client.  Once I could accept as a coincidence, but to randomly email somebody actually expecting a repayment and to be within 10% of the actual repayment due....the odds on doing that must be very slim

This reminds me that online application for and renewal of Working Tax Credits and Child Tax Credits was withdrawn because of fraud by members of HMRC staff.

Now with a tax repayment case as quoted it could, as an alternative to HMRC staff fraud, be a case of eMails (referring to tax repayments due, between advisor and tax payer) being intercepted by fraudsters.

Either way it needs reporting to HMRC's fraud investigation section.

 

 

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29th May 2012 22:37

Hi

I receive these far too regulary, and ones claiming to be from various banks.

Usually they have a link for you to connect through to their website (with a dodgy address!)

They are all scams - HMRC and the banks will never e-mail asking to confirm any such details.

I do find it a bit worrying how many I receive (up to a dozen a week) - as if by bombardment I will eventually surrender and give them the details??

Don't know if reporting them does any good - I used to report them but never got anything other than an automated response, and it certainly hasn't stopped them coming.

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By ACDWebb
30th May 2012 08:25

Try filtering email through something like Mailwasher

That at least allows you to decide whether or not to download an email to your machine, and you can normally view the plain text of the link and see where it actually points to.

As above HMRC email addresses contain .gsi. so it seems highly likely that what ws received is a hoax, albeit coincidentally arriving just after a refund claim was actually submitted.

Of the few that I have seen hit my Mailwasher, some ask you to download what appears to be a PDF file, but when you look at what the link actually points to it has the extension .pdf.exe so will probably try to download a nasty to you if clicked, and the other asked for a long list of account details and security question answers, plus the card PIN!!

Forward it on to the HMRC phishing link if you are so inclined. I have done a few to banks & HMRC in the past . Never heard anymore

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01st Jun 2012 11:33

Result

from original post

advised today 1 june that Company hasthe VAT refund cheque dated 28may

recall online posting of VAT return on the 28th= cheque same day

and speedy post/dispatch

 

HMRC all is forgiven such speeeeeeeedy service........ endof

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11th Jul 2012 10:28

The fake HMRC email is obviously a phishing scam and reads, This tag tells web users something about the website that they may well be about to click.
internet banking

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