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HMRC Terms & Conditions ... what ??

HMRC Terms & Conditions ... what ??

Submitting End of Year PAYE Documents On-line:

This year for the first time I noticed - has it always been there? - a tick-box agreeing to be bound by Terms & Conditions before being able to proceed to submit PAYE end of year documents.

Since

1. the employer is required to submit online and

2. it is not possible to pass beyond that page without ticking the box to agree

Can these terms and conditions be binding?

What can these terms and conditions be?   Isn't the relationship between employer and HMRC governed by law?

Has anybody read them?

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04th May 2012 14:36

Can you read them - is there a mechanism for getting them? I've not see it

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By ACDWebb
04th May 2012 15:57

Presumably

these - https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/information/terms - which appear from a link on the page between entering your Agent login details and actually being able to acces the various HMRC On-line services

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11th May 2012 15:28

7500 words

Yes, you can read them.

Did a word count (with Word).   The terms and conditions are 7,500 words in length.

I still haven't read them.

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11th May 2012 15:43

How many T & C's have you

How many T & C's have you been asked to read and tick the box and cannot be bothered. I have this all the time and generally work on the principle that if I want the service/product and can't have it without accepting the box I tick anyway

 

This is a very bad habit but pragmatic nonetheless

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By DMGbus
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11th May 2012 21:09

Long terms and conditions a current plague

bernard michael wrote:

How many T & C's have you been asked to read and tick the box and cannot be bothered. I have this all the time and generally work on the principle that if I want the service/product and can't have it without accepting the box I tick anyway

 

This is a very bad habit but pragmatic nonetheless

This business of ridiculously long terms and conditions seems to be a current plague, so can't criticise HMRC for it - commercial companies are at it too - it seems to be (unfortunately) normal commercial practice currently.

I believe that some members of this forum have been caught out by software suppliers introducing long notice periods to get "unhitched" by using this plague as as a devious ploy, presumably when updates are downloaded is when the victims are mugged by extra small-print contract terms.

It would be good to see some consumer protection authorities attack this issue, but as the victims of these devious ploys are commercial organisations doubt that such authorities have any interest in the matter.

 

 

 

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