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Purchasing sage 50 account for multiple companies

Purchasing sage 50 account for multiple companies

Hello. I am about to complete my bookkeeping training and intend to set up as a self employed for one or more companies.

My question is this... If I buy sage 50 accounts, it says it is for 1 company, however I also know it is possible to restore a company in sage, therefore I don't understand how sage can track how many companies I use my sage for.

I have training in sage and have used the restore option many times. If I chose the subscription option I know that sage would monitor and know I was using it in an improper way, but if I bought it outright for about £600 then how would they know if I restore a different company therefore giving me the option to use it for multiple companies.

I hope someone can clarify this for me and I appreciate all advise.

Rose

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26th Feb 2016 15:12

The question has to be asked - why do you want use Sage anyway

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26th Feb 2016 16:50

Sage

bernard michael wrote:

The question has to be asked - why do you want use Sage anyway

 

At a guess Sage give training establishments free stuff to mug people into thinking it's the dog's whatsits. Personally I wouldn't touch it - had experience with it in lots of companies, always found it too complicated and restrictive for the small companies I deal with.

Moved everyone except 1 stick in the mud off it :)

Use VT now for books & accounts, just going to change to Moneysoft & Taxfiler after this payroll yearend (from Keytime)

Regards

Chris

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26th Feb 2016 16:39

Any software
Sage are too expensive. Try another software provider. Its you that does the bookkeeping the software just facilitates this. You can learn almost any new software in little time.

Try quickbooks for cost.

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26th Feb 2016 16:42

Multi Company

The short answer is that they can't monitor it but the licence agreement that you have to agree to when you install the software states that a single company licence can only be used for a single company so restoring data from different companies would be a breach of that agreement.

John

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26th Feb 2016 21:08

Thanks for the advice
I asked about sage as it was part of my training so I feel ready to go self employed using it. When i researched jobs in bookkeeping before i chose a course, most employers were asking for sage 50 knowledge which is why I chose what I did. I don't have any experience using other software. I've heard lots of bad things about QuickBooks and don't know VT, but will look at it now.

I do feel mugged, but I got a good price for the course at least.

Hmmm... Lots of thinking to do. Thanks everybody.

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26th Feb 2016 21:28

Looking at VT briefly on reviews online, it seems that it is very well thought of, and it is cheap enough at £199 (VT accounts) per year for unlimited companies and I can try it for 60 days free to get a feel for it. I will be having a play with VT this weekend than. Thanks again for the feedback.

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27th Feb 2016 06:51

That's that then

"I've heard lots of bad things about QuickBooks"

So you have written off the best bookkeeping package without making any effort!?

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27th Feb 2016 07:46

I've not written it off, but I'd rather investigate the one with the best reviews first. That seems to be VT by the reviews on a number of threads on this forum. After sage, QuickBooks seems to be the most desired by employers, however VT seems to be the preferred by self employed bookkeepers and accountants. I'm still learning though.

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27th Feb 2016 10:08

QuickBooks is the best

By far

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27th Feb 2016 11:51

If you still want to look at sage

It is client manager that you should be looking at  ringing sage and ask for the bookkeeping or accountants division.   You will be looking at the accountants or bookkeeping networks bundle. 

Yes there are many that do not like various softwares.   However the money we make using sage pays for itself for those clients who what to use Sage L50 and they will never change so we would lose a lot of business .   However as a company we use all softwares for all are clients it is their choice. .

 

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27th Feb 2016 12:21

Sage

I used to use Sage when clients used Sage but gradually these clients retired, emigrated, died or stopped being clients for other reasons. I stopped using Sage when I had no clients who used Sage. I found that Sage tried to make more money out of their current clients as their reputation diminished. I was still using Sage Payroll until they doubled their prices and tried to charge me £2,000 per year so I transferred to BrightPay who charge £199 per year.

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27th Feb 2016 23:48

Proffesionalism

Not read all the other comments.  I do believe Sage are now a rip off.  However, if you are willing to look at bypassing using a single licence to use as a multi licence do you believe you are professional enough to actually act for clients?

 

 

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By tom123
28th Feb 2016 09:06

It will end badly

Backups and restores are meant to be for emergency use, rather than every day.

If you work on four clients each day, for example, you will be backing up and restoring four times.

What's the betting that the following will happen:

 

1) You will restore the file for your next client, without backing up the current one - thus losing data. You might not even realise this has happened.

2) You will run a restore, but not choosing the latest backup. thus losing data.

 

With the best will in the world, I guarantee this will happen at some stage - avoid it now by getting the appropriate edition of sage - assuming you really want to stick with it.

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