First little iXBRL glitch

Posted by nogammonsinanun... PM | on Wed, 06/04/2011 - 10:00 1777 5 comments | report

HMRC issued a notice to file CT600 for a dormant company having a year end after 31 March 2010.

We tried to file the form online in iXBRL format just now, and HMRC rejected it. Apparently a CT return with nothing on it will not pass validation.

Onward and upward.

Echos of £nil P35 forms.

With kind regards

Clint Westwood

Comments

What software

thisistibi | Wed, 06/04/2011 - 12:59 | Permalink

You didn't specify what filing software you are using. My software submitted a NIL return perfectly fine (presumably it dealt with the zero issues all by itself)....

£1 sales and £1 expenses

DMGbus | Wed, 06/04/2011 - 13:22 | Permalink

I wonder if a fictious £1 of sales and £1 of expenses would "do the trick" to get the return accepted, then to be followed by a letter to HMRC correcting the return as both "£1" figures should read "£0" ?

Now, if the online filing permitted a "white space" note then there'd be no need to write to HMRC separately about a correction, an explanatory note would be put in the "white space" (note) box to effect that a nominal £1 entered to fit in with HMRC's software validation requirements.

The bottom line either way is NIL profit / nil loss.

Ideally HMRC perhaps could be persuaded to cancel the notice to deliver a CT return ?

Software ...

nogammonsinanun... | Wed, 06/04/2011 - 15:08 | Permalink

.... was Sage CT. At the moment I am reserving judgement about blaming Sage, but if other packages file OK then it is not looking good.

Thanks for the suggestions, folks

With kind regards

Clint Westwood

Dormant and iXBRL

daveforbes | Tue, 19/04/2011 - 13:32 | Permalink

If the company is dormant you do not need to attach accounts or a computation (in ixbrl, pdf or otherwise).

The "no accounts reason" and "no computations reason" box needs to be set to "Company dormant"

I just successfully sent in a CT600 with no attachments and zeros.

rE: if there were whitespace ... you are still allowed to attach a pdf for that sort of thing.

thanks @daveforbes

nogammonsinanun... | Tue, 19/04/2011 - 13:58 | Permalink

I am sure that you are right, but I just don't see the connection between your advice and the original post. I didn't say that we tried to send in accounts, but the CT600 by itself is in iXBRL is it not? With Sage I don't think it is possible to send a CT600 with no computation pages attached (£nil entries or otherwise). What software were you using to file the CT600 that was successful in your case?

With kind regards

Clint Westwood