Getting UTR without a National Insurance Number

Getting UTR without a National Insurance Number

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Dear All,

How is it possible?

Example, I have a client from Germany, A German national and he wants to start working as a leaflet distributor.

He has been given a  National Insurance Interview date in January 2010. He has started working as self employed since December 01, 2009. How can he get a UTR as  National Insurance Interview Appointment letter has asked him to provide a UTR.

Has any one got an experience in that. I think he will fail the National Insurance Interview as HMRC wont issue UTR till he gets Natiional Insurance number and he wont get a NINO till he gets a UTR?  Any solutions?

Also you have to regsiter as self employed within 3 months of starting self employed work, what willa person do, if he does not have a National Insurance number? WHo will than bear that late regsitration penalty of 100 Pounds?

Has any one experienced this egg and chicken issue?

B Regards

Sarmad

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By geoffwolf
11th Dec 2009 06:56

CWF1

is the required form notifying commencement of self employment.

I would just send it in with a letter of explanation.

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By Sylvain
17th Jan 2020 23:10

Hello everyone I Need a UTR number but I don't have a NATIONAL INSURANCE NUMBER can I use Sa1 form

Any advice please

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By Sylvain
17th Jan 2020 23:10

Hello everyone I Need a UTR number but I don't have a NATIONAL INSURANCE NUMBER can I use Sa1 form

Any advice please

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