Great Plains or Navision ?

Great Plains or Navision ?

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Has anyone used Great Plains or Navision accounting or manufacturing software? I would welcome comments from any users, covering implementation to day to day use. (We are looking to replace our current system with one of these.) Thanks.
Teresa

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By Accounting WEB
21st May 2001 17:55

NAVISION SUCCESS WITH ALPHA LANDSTEINAR
Hello Teresa,
We are a steel processing organisation (circa £55m T/O)and have successfully implemented the Navision financial ledgers with a company called Alpha Landsteinar in Calne, Wiltshire (Contact Mr Ian Humphries 01249-810600). In 2 weeks time we shall be going live with a completely (ledger) integrated production,planning and scheduling system utilising Navision core modules. Extra requirements for our business are being 'customised' utilising the excellent Navision RAD (Rapid Application Development)Tool.
We were a data rich / information poor company before implementation but have found Navision to be an excellent solution with its drill down and advanced filtering features + easy output to Excel. Creating a new table, form or simply moving a field to a new position on the screen is very simple (for non techies)and has allowed us to 'design' our system to the satisfaction of users.
During system selection I was concerned to read about Great Plains re...sub ledgers NOT balancing to the GL, difficulty in customising screens, difficult to use report writing facilities, no physical inventory module.
Navision fortunately provides accurate ledgers, inventory recording, easy reporting with trendscaping and Human Resources as standard. This avoids 3rd party products.
In summary we have been delighted with Alpha Landsteinar and realise that it is absolutely critical to find an implementation partner such as Lansteinar who understands your business and can work with you to provide a
complete solution.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like further information about our project.

Crawford Fisher, Financial Controller
Tel: 0121-553-5292.


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By Accounting WEB
21st May 2001 09:39

Alternative option
I would be pleased to hear from you if you would like to widen your options to other systems.

MIS Computer Services provide an established finance, business and HR suite of modules. All the products are written and supported by MIS.

E-mail me on [email protected] if you would like some information.

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By Accounting WEB
18th May 2001 16:45

Experience GP Consultant
I have been involved with GP since introduced into the UK in 1993 at vers 1.2. I have implemented literally hundreds of sites from 2 users upwards with & without SQL. I know that if you understand GP and implement correctly you don't get problems. We have to ring our users for a chat as they don't call with problems !!!!

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By AnonymousUser
17th May 2001 23:27

Navision v Great Plains
To add some degree of balance here, might I just say I have worked with both products and would suggest Navision is fine as a lower end product (albeit starting to look a bit dated) but is out performed as you move up the scale (say 40+ users). There is an inherent problem in Navision not being a native SQL product (still based around their own C/SIDE development language) whereas GP is native C++ (as is SQL, IE, NT, Office) and is very highly optimised in the multi-user environment. It also has that magic word 'Microsoft' at the front of it... sorry but I happen to find a very high level of comfort in that if I'm looking at a long-term investment. At the high end Navision have their Daamgaard products.
SA.

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By Accounting WEB
17th May 2001 14:09

My GP experiences
I implemented GP for 3 years before looking in desperation for another product (and found Navision). With GP I spent many non-chargeable hours looking for imbalances between the GL, the debtors ledger and the SOP system at the insistence of clients who felt (quite rightly) that the GL and sub-ledgers should not go out of balance without good reason. GP's report writer and reports dictionary function is (was?) very cumbersome and its functionality over-rated. I could go on and on but let me just mention one more issue which almost every GP end-user would agree with - GP is one of the most frustrating products for a user to learn and, in my experience, users are never really happy with it but learn to live with it. Speaking for myself, I invested three years in GP and was prepared to walk away from it and start all over again (with a substantial loss of earnings initially). So that you can evaluate my remarks you should know that I now work for Navision but that these remarks are made in my personal capacity and you could consider them to be biased. However, I would suggest that you visit at least three GP reference sites and spend time with the people who actually use the system before making any decision. Do the same with Navision.

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By Accounting WEB
17th May 2001 14:14

Navision and Great Plains advice
Aston Group in the UK offer a unique service - we provide solutions based on Navision OR Great Plains.

We will look at your business objectives, and system requirements then advise you as to whether Great Plains or Navision would be best for your specific situation.

I believe that we are the only company in the UK who can offer this independant service, as no other company is a reseller of both Navision and Great Plains. If you want an informal talk with us, please call on 020 7240 4730 or email to [email protected]

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By Accounting WEB
14th May 2001 13:03

Navision
I suggest you contact Navision UK on 0208 207 4141, I work for a London based solution centre (Computer Accounts Technology), but have not got specific manaufacturing experience. Navision will be able to advise you as to which solution centre is most equipt to handle your requirements.

I was at a training course at Navision last week and met a consultant from Baillies Associates. They have a wide range of experience dealing with manufacturuing ERP systems including MAN-MAN and Bahn - they have taken on Navision in the last few years.

PS: Do you really think it is a coincidence that four different users recommended Cedilla Systems!!!

Andrew Murphy

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By Accounting WEB
11th May 2001 21:53

AccountView the perfect alternative (just a good advice)
Why don't you look at the site of AccountView.
www.accountview.com
AccountView is the most modern and flexible software on the market today.
AccountView Business Software contains modules for Financials, Trade & Logistics, Project and Time & Billing and CRM.
AccountView is a 32 bit 100% object oriented application. AccountView is based on the Microsoft COM technology to integrate your business software dynamicly and seamless with any kind of third party application.
AccountView also offers a full integration with your MS Office applications
Beside the tech talk AccountView is extremely easy to use and is has very powerfull management report possibilities.
Microsoft accredited AccountView as the best packaged application (Microsoft Excellence Award). Are you looking for a scalable, flexible and complete solution at least give the site a try.

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By Accounting WEB
10th May 2001 12:29

Navision User
We purchased Navision Financials from a company called Cedilla in Manchester (0161 832 3663) in Nov 1997. We were their very first customer to use this package and we have been completely satisfied with both the package and the professionalism of how Cedilla handled the installation. At present we utilise the General Ledger, SOP, POP, Inventory, FA, and HR. We would definitely recommend the Navision package for your Company and highly recommend Cedilla as a supplier given the quality of service and support we have received and continue to receive daily.

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By Accounting WEB
10th May 2001 09:45

Navision Users
We purchased the Navision package in 1998 from a company called Cedilla Multi User Systems, based at Globe House, Southall Street, Manchester - Tel: 0161 832 3663. We are very pleased with the service we have received from them and continue to receive from them. They provide a very high standard of support on an on going basis. My main contact there is a gentleman called Jamaine Campbell who would only be to happy to provide any information you may need.

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By Accounting WEB
10th May 2001 11:29

Navision User
We have used Navision very successfully since 1998, utilising General Ledger, SOP, POP, Jobs, Resources & Payroll modules. The implementation was undertaken by Cedilla in Manchester (0161 832 3663) who were able to cope with both the tight timetable and the large amount of customisation required for our particular application of the product. We are shortly due to roll out the latest version of the software throughout our group - a clear indication of our satisfaction with both Cedilla & Navision.

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By Accounting WEB
10th May 2001 12:08

Navision Financials from Cedilla Systems
We purchased Navision Financials in March last year from Cedilla Systems - 0161 832 3663. I would advise that if you are looking at both systems, that you speak to Cedilla about Navision. The issue with either system is that the provider must understand your business as this will result in you getting a perfect solution to match with your unique requirements. Navision is invaluable to Silversmith and has delivered tangible business and user benefits.

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