Nil P11D(b) - system as last year?

Nil P11D(b) - system as last year?

Didn't find your answer?

Last year I recall we had quite a few problems with clients who had declared "no P11Ds are due" on the form P35 and then did not replicated this declaration by filing a nil P11D(b). HMRC seemed to ignore the statement on the form P35 and their systems still logged that P11Ds were (apparently) outstanding, when nothing (after the P35) was submitted by 06 July. We got all of the penalties cancelled, but it was a pain having to do so.

I am wondering whether this problem is likely to repeat this year. I don't expect any forum members would know the answer to this, but I guess it's a case of watch this space.
Clint Westwood

Replies (4)

Please login or register to join the discussion.

avatar
By AnonymousUser
17th May 2007 18:30

I have no particular problem ...
... with the requirement for a "nil" return. How else are HMRC to distinguish those which are outstanding from those which are not required? I do have an issue with a requirement to fill in a nil return twice, which we had to do last year. Still, I may be fearing the worst in a repetition this year.

Thanks (0)
avatar
By User deleted
18th May 2007 10:07

Totally agree
Clint

I totally agree with your comments. Of course if an employer has previously been submitting P11Ds and then does not need to (i.e. BIKs no longer provided etc) then after the first nil return it should not have to.

If P11Ds are required in future years then as part of the reporting obligations they will have to be filed anyway. I would like to think that the Revenue would not waste their time in chasing "second" and subsequent nil returns .

Thanks (0)
avatar
By nathanhamill
17th May 2007 14:33

Here we go again...
Sounds like the HMRC just being the HMRC again - I've never heard of a nil P11D return.

Thanks (0)
avatar
By User deleted
17th May 2007 15:51

Nathan
The P11D(b) at section 2 gives the first box as a nil return.

Quite frankly, I do not see any reason why a nil return should be made. Isn't it after all to state that no exepnses and BIK have been provided? If this is the case then no tax and NIC will be due (or in other words, tax and NIC will be due on a nice round figure - i.e. 0).

Thanks (0)