P11d expenses and self assessment returns

Maybe I'm being thick here but having issued a P11d for small amounts of travel and entertainment then sent the usual s336 letter declaring them as business expenses I now seem to be unable to stop those expenses being taxed in the online self assessment return.

They have to be declared as taxable expenses right ? but how do I then deduct them so as not to get taxed?

Sorry if it's obvious

Thanks
Andy

Comments

Thanks Dave but....

Anonymous | | Permalink

But the problem is I'm not getting a 'next page' .

If on the first employment page I say yes to 'any expenses' and no to 'any non reimbursed expenses' after the taxable expense is entered on the next page I get taken to the 'any other employment information' page

Only if I say yes to 'any non reimbursed expenses' do i get the employment expenses page where I can enter those expenses a second time to make them allowable,

Can someone just do a dummy check for me just to confirm I'm not going mad ?

No bug - you need to enter it twice.

Dave Paveley | | Permalink

Once in the box as expenses reimbursed, as you have done, and then again on the next page entitled 'Expenses incurred in doing your job'.

The two entries will cancel each other out.

Chances are HMRC will still put them on your next PAYE code but you can cross that bridge when you come to it!

Update

Anonymous | | Permalink

The only way I can do it is to say 'yes' to the box 'expenses that have not been re-imbursed' then I get the employments expenses page where I can enter the allowable costs that are then reflected in the calculation

Either there is a bug in the software or this is what I am meant to do. Has anyone else had problems with this ?

It's a minefield

JonnyEndeacott | | Permalink

I spoke to an inspector recently about this and he said I had to LIE to the system and include the amount within "expenses incurred in doing job" which is supposed to be for items not reimbursed. It's mad isn't it!