Profitable international football ?

Profitable international football ?

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Have England got it wrong and missed an opportunity to generate a lot of income?

In this evenings friendly Capello is fielding a lot of young players. 

Wouldnt it have been more profitable if he had fielded the losing world cup squad, made them go onto the pitch an hour before kick off, and set up stalls selling rotten fruit all around the ground ?

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By cathygrimmer
11th Aug 2010 11:08

Fab idea!

Fab idea, CD! Could make great inroads into the National Debt!

Cathy

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By pembo
11th Aug 2010 15:13

or

even better set up rows of stalls selling rotten fruit etc on the half way line. Then line up a row of medieval stocks along the goal line and force each of the tossers from SA to endure 5 minutes whilst the public hurl stuff at them from the penalty spot ...you'd have them queing round the block for that and I'd even consider dashing up the M4 myself....

booing is too good for that lot....being a footy nut following my (previously) beloved blubirds for the last 43 years I fully blame my current complete lack of enthusiasm and apathy on the self serving morons who run and participate in the beautiful game and I know countless more like me...

down here we've got our black arm bands on for a guy called Brian Clark who sadly died yesterday at the age of 67...it was Clarky who famously scored our winning goal in the 1-0 win against Real Madrid in March 1971 when I was one of nearly 50,000 packing Ninian Park...he'd have been worth £5m these days...back then of course players had to find jobs when they retired and you could not have met a more kind and humble gentleman...what a contrast...

Had a meeting with HMRC this morning that actually went very well (just to keep the AWEB connection)

 

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By cupcake
11th Aug 2010 16:04

How to sell even more fruit...

My local side has just lost its number nine and much loved striker to cancer at the age of just 31...a minute's silence for him this evening would be much appreciated and may remind everyone what football should really be about, ie a connection between fans and players and a proper work ethic.

If you take a moment to read the reports and memories of him doing the rounds today you will find an example of how to properly conduct yourself both on and off the field which would no doubt encourage those supporters present tonight to part with more cash for rotten fruit when comparing with certain of our 'star' players' antics...in fact you may need a whole new orchard.

No relevance to accountancy whatsoever I'm afraid...sorry! 

 

 

  

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By cymraeg_draig
11th Aug 2010 16:16

Prima Donnas

No relevance to accountancy whatsoever I'm afraid...sorry! tooltip();

 

Posted by cupcake on Wed, 11/08/2010 - 16:04

 

Nor had the original question :) 

Yes I know - I'll be in trouble with the moderators and told to collect my coat on the way out :(.

I take your point about overpaid prima donnas in todays game.  Recent cases by HMRC I think demonstrate that football has reached the point where current wages and transfer fees are no longer sustainable.

We have a client with a box at The Emirates - it holds 12 and costs about £65,000 a year. Now that works out at about £150-£180 per person per game which seems a hell of a lot to me for a game of football even if you do get a decent meal thrown in.

The last Championship team I saw charged £35 for a hard plasic seat in the wind and rain, which struck me as an expensive way of getting flu and a sore rear end whilst watching 3rd rate football.

As for Pembo's comments about the lot from SA, I watched the Leeds v Derby game on TV at the weekend and heard something very interesting.  Apparently Derbys manager stopped the team bus 1/4 mile from the stadium and made the team walk through the Leeds fans to reach the ground.  His "logic" was that this would ready them for the barracking they would get during the game.  I wonder if Capello would dare do this tonight ??????  

 

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By cupcake
11th Aug 2010 16:34

Prima donnas

This is undoubtedly true. The worst thing is that it is not even top players earning silly money - there are several examples of jobbing players on ridiculous amounts 'per week' (quaint that they still use that phrase, almost as though they're trying to make a link between factory workers in the fifties and today's bunch of Ferrari-owning cretins).

I'm sure that HMRC are going to continue going after clubs over PAYE bills (and why shouldn't they - they're effectively stealing money from us all by not paying fairly due and payable taxes) and once a seriously big club goes under - and I mean properly goes under - everyone may wake up to the fact that these wages are unsustainable. As indeed are costs of watching football (a byproduct of such salaries) - which even goes down to our level...I spent £23 to watch an away match at a ground (a particular club in Kent) whose away end consisted of temporary scaffolding. That club's pricing policies didn't stop them getting relegated though...

My club has had its share of financial issues years ago but now has a manager who understands business and budgeting and as a result we don't have the insane risks that other clubs are exposing themselves to. Us accountants like that sort of thing....!

I read somewhere that most League 2 (fourth division) clubs have an average salary of around £45k (I think) and League 1 (third division) clubs £68k or so... still big money in many eyes but nowhere near the eye-watering sums paid at the 'top' level which so alienates real fans from the players at their clubs. Because that is what so many players just don't seem to get, that when you get paid such astronomical sums those that pay silly money to watch actually expect you to look like you give a damn... 

Re the Derby players' walk on Saturday; I think this was similar to what Leeds did themselves in the 70s, and with the Clough family history with Derby and Leeds it was seen as the right gesture...I would though like to think of the England players trudging through North London surrounded by supporters before the game...!

And a final thought on clubs going under - already we have seen Frsley Celtic, King's Lynn and Chester City go under owing actually pretty small sums to the taxman - there will be a biggie soon, I'm sure of it.

 

 

 

 

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By cymraeg_draig
11th Aug 2010 22:49

Beckham

So now Capello says Beckham is "too old" to play for England without even having the decency to tell Beckham first - disgusting.  I'm coming to the conclusion that at 64 Capello is too old to manage England and should be "retired" immediately.

Its time Harry Rednap was installed as England Manager (unless someone can pursuade Wenger to take the job).

 

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By cupcake
12th Aug 2010 09:31

New role

Perhaps Capello wants Beckham to be his new English teacher instead. It is disappointing that he hasn't at least learned some key phrases like "At the end of the day, Garth, that's a stonewall over the line situation and the lads are gutted in there."

In fact, is it just me or is Capello's English getting worse with every interview? He wants to get a Rosetta Stone course. 

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By pembo
12th Aug 2010 10:31

come off it

Its time Harry Rednap was installed as England Manager (unless someone can pursuade Wenger to take the job). 

 

Posted by cymraeg_draig on Wed, 11/08/2010 - 22:49

Lovely thought CD and what most right minded people want....however that does not take into account the spineless useless self serving lot who run the FA. Remember what happened to arguably the greatest England manager in the last 40 years (and one who would still do a job) ...El Tel...soon as a whiff of private scandal came out then notwithstanding England had in their 1996 games against Holland and Scotland played probably some of the greatest football ever seen by an England team it was thanks but adios amigo..

Same I'm afraid with "our "arry" and this tax thing hanging over him....FA wouldn't touch with the proverbial so lets stick with the Italian shall we who even we supposedly articulate and intelligent types have difficulty understanding...what chance Wayne ?? Sums it up that he didn't apparently have the decency (or intelligence ?) to discuss this with Becks first.

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By cymraeg_draig
12th Aug 2010 12:40

Cloughie

arguably the greatest England manager in the last 40 years...El Tel..

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Posted by pembo on Thu, 12/08/2010 - 10:31

 

A bit like the best manager they never had - Brian Clough.  A brilliant motivator and tactician, but too outspoken for the numpties in charge.

I got to meet him several times through a client whose husband played for Derby County under Clough and his passion and knowledge of the game was unparalelled. Would England have won turnaments under Cloughie?  Who knows, but one thing is certain, they would have played with pride.  

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By pembo
12th Aug 2010 13:27

nothing changes

..Cloughie was a one off genius...think it was him who explained his man management skills thus...." well we sit down and have a chat about it and then he realises I'm right....".......remember seeing his Forest team down here 1976-77 when they went up and the Forest fans were suddenly plunged into dreamland...noone else in the world could have made that group of players perform like that...

Sums it up to me when the FA had the choice in 1974 ....Don Revie or Cloughie...Don was a brilliant club manager but....the rest is history...

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By cymraeg_draig
12th Aug 2010 14:36

"We talk about it for twenty minutes and then we decide I was ri

 

"I wouldn't say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one."

 

"I'm sure the England selectors thought if they took me on and gave me the job, I'd want to run the show. They were shrewd, because that's exactly what I would have done."

 

 

Wise words by Cloughie.

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