A.I.A. can you carry this forward

A.I.A. can you carry this forward

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Client with net profit under £ 10,000 for 2014- 2015 has purchased van.

£5000 - do I have to claim this 2014-2015 or can I c/f to next year ?

Not had this situation before - sorry

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By mrme89
07th Apr 2015 19:38

You can restrict the AIA claim to the most tax efficient amount. The balance will be carried forward and WDA can then be claimed.

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By Paul D Utherone
07th Apr 2015 21:55

So

no.

If you disclaim the AIA in 2014-15 the amount available as AIA is not carried forward to 2015-16. You will presumably also disclaim the WDA available as income is covered by PA's and when you come to do the 15-16 return you will have a general, or more possibly a single asset with private use, pool with a brought forward balance of the cost of the new van on which you can claim WDA at the normal rate and not AIA.

Edited for typos

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By Tim Vane
07th Apr 2015 20:08

Clients?

That's two very basic questions you've asked in a week. Are you sure you should be providing a service to clients given you have such obvious gaps in your knowledge?

If you really have never come across the above situation before then that would suggest you do not have much relevant experience, since it is quite a common occurrence in small businesses. And not knowing the rules for AIA is worrying.

I would have to question what other fundamental mistakes you might be making due to inexperience, and I do hope you don't steer yourself and your clients into trouble without realising it. Have you considered mentoring?

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By Charlie Carne
07th Apr 2015 22:08

What client?

Tim Vane wrote:

That's two very basic questions you've asked in a week.

Seriously, folks.....this is unlikely to be an accountant asking on behalf of a client, but it is far more likely that "accountability" is a trader seeking free advice (he's only been a member for a week). Why do you all keep giving free advice to people who have clearly just joined AWeb for that reason? This site is intended for professionals to exchange ideas, not a free resource for people who are too cheap to appoint an accountant.

Maybe users should be required to be a member for a predetermined period before being allowed to post questions?

 

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By cparker87
07th Apr 2015 22:31

Is it?

charliecarne wrote:

Tim Vane wrote:

That's two very basic questions you've asked in a week.

Seriously, folks.....this is unlikely to be an accountant asking on behalf of a client, but it is far more likely that "accountability" is a trader seeking free advice (he's only been a member for a week). Why do you all keep giving free advice to people who have clearly just joined AWeb for that reason? This site is intended for professionals to exchange ideas, not a free resource for people who are too cheap to appoint an accountant.

Maybe users should be required to be a member for a predetermined period before being allowed to post questions?

 

Given there re is no legal impediment to anyone trading as an accountant it may well be that accountability is an accountant.

Perhaps, god forbid, accountability is a trainee? I used this forum whilst training too and found it a great help. Comments such as this would not have been encouraging.

Some of us seem to have illusions of grandeur as to what grade this forum is. This is a perfectly acceptable question.

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By Tim Vane
07th Apr 2015 22:45

Utter drivel

Just because there is no legal impediment to anyone trading as an accountant this should not mean that we should condone or encourage somebody who charges a fee for professional services that they are not experienced enough to provide.

It is a perfectly acceptable question for a trainee or a student to ask, and there is an appropriate forum on this site for them to ask such questions; although any student with a basic tax textbook in front of them would be better advised to read the relevant chapter first - the answer to this question will probably be on page 1 or 2 of the section entitled capital allowances.

And if that's an "illusion of grandeur" (sic) then I am happy to remain forever deluded.

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By cparker87
07th Apr 2015 23:06

Disagree
I do not recall any guidance on restriction of CAs in my studies. They were quite sparse of tax planning ideas or strategies.

It's quite a common error. Indeed, just recently a newly qualified ACCA member of staff made the same mistake and was not aware CAs could be restricted. I bet a good chunk of the member base here don't know about it despite the frequency of this type of query.

The group you refer to has 14 members and is hardly active. If I were a student, I would (and have) post right here in any answers.

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By mrme89
07th Apr 2015 23:16

Sift have already clarified their position; Any Answers is open for those involved in the accountancy and tax profession. Whether that be a senior partner at a Big 4 or a tea boy at a small local firm.
They've also clarified who Any Answers isn't for, but let's not get into that.

If the OP continues to ask basic questions, then I agree, they shouldn't be charging clients. But with only two questions asked, I think we should give them the benefit of doubt for now.

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By Shamrock
08th Apr 2015 08:38

Basic is very subjective
Accountants often have a reputation as being tight fisted bean counters, and from the responses to this OP's question its easy to see why.

We have a responsibility to local communities to ensure the small businesses are as healthy as possible and that accountants anywhere are viewed in good standing. Getting paid is just a byproduct of doing something we love to do.

There will always be gaps in each of our knowledges that one another might view as essential to the job so until you know absolutely everything its pretty hypocritical to tell Accountability to give up their business as they aren't qualified.

At least Accountability has the good sense to ask for advice where they aren't sure, there are many accountants out there that would just make it up as they go and bring our profession into disrepute.

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By The Wycher
08th Apr 2015 10:04

I agree

 

Shamrock wrote:
Accountants often have a reputation as being tight fisted bean counters, and from the responses to this OP's question its easy to see why. We have a responsibility to local communities to ensure the small businesses are as healthy as possible and that accountants anywhere are viewed in good standing. Getting paid is just a byproduct of doing something we love to do. There will always be gaps in each of our knowledges that one another might view as essential to the job so until you know absolutely everything its pretty hypocritical to tell Accountability to give up their business as they aren't qualified. At least Accountability has the good sense to ask for advice where they aren't sure, there are many accountants out there that would just make it up as they go and bring our profession into disrepute.

I have to completely agree with this point, as an accountant with 27 years experience (the majority in general practice) and just about to start my own practice I am realistic to know that I don't know everything and there may well be some simple things which I have missed or forgotten and being able to ask questions without my whole abilities being questioned would be quite nice!

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By Charlie Carne
15th Apr 2015 12:55

To whom are we responsible?

Shamrock wrote:
We have a responsibility to local communities to ensure the small businesses are as healthy as possible

Do we? Since when were accountants responsible to people other than their own (fee-paying) clients. Not only do we, as professionals, have a right to be paid for our advice given to clients (we're not a financial version of the NHS) but, by encouraging non-professionals to seek advice on a forum, rather than by seeing an accountant who will take the time to understand the full picture and ensure that the advice is relevant, not only to the elements of the situation that the ill-informed taxpayer bothers to mention, but also takes account of other factors that may play a major part in the decision-making process but which we have not been told about, we expose the taxpayer to complacency and risks of which he was not aware.

Now, in this case, accountability tells us that he is an accountant, so he is welcome to post questions on here and seek advice from his colleagues, as he should be aware of the risks of partial information. But many of the questions answered on AWEB are from non-professionals who need to take proper advice. And we should not be encouraging them to seek it from us on this forum. Otherwise, this forum is at risk of becoming a version of "the bloke down the pub".

Oh, and by the way, my grandeur is thoroughly illusory!

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By justsotax
08th Apr 2015 11:27

would agree in part to the above...

but there is nothing like researching things to learn - a quick google...or look in a book and the answer would have been found.  Simple questions (with no mention of what the OP's conclusion or findings are and perhaps looking for clariifcation) appear on the face of it to be lazy at best.

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By refs8
08th Apr 2015 12:27

Interesting debate

I read this last night, and felt it was a very reasonable question. 

Whether it is an accountant or not, is for me not the point. We are hear to help our fellow humans. Some people on here are just rude IMO.

I had a similiar issue with AIA - that I could not find the answer for, I searched high and low for an answer and could not find one, so rang the HMRC and they took ages to give an answer.That is with 26 years experience running an accountancy practice.

So OP if you still have an issue PM me and will see if I can help.

I could say more but won't.

 

 

 

 

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By DMGbus
08th Apr 2015 13:10

Google - 398,000 results

The suggestion that to not use Google is "lazy" is misguided.

Just Googled the question asked and somewhat typically I get 398,000 results to the question!

Now, if it takes just 30 seconds to read each result, that's more than 2 days continuous (no sleep except it's a good insomnia cure!) reading!

Sensible alternative = ask fellow professionals on AWeb and get some good and some bad results.

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By justsotax
08th Apr 2015 13:48

it seems ashame

that researching the query seems to have gone out of the window...I did mention using a book (although for clarification I didn't mean the nearest one to you...perhaps try Tolley's tax guide or something similarly appropriate.)  Nothing wrong with asking a question but a little bit of leg work on something never harms - it can be quite enlightening what you find out that you didn't know but thought you did.

 

Although I would suggest not simply googling Aweb as it brings up 393,000 results...and there seems to be an assumption that intelligence and common sense cannot be used together when reviewing the results...

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By accountability
09th Apr 2015 13:23

Amazed at response to my question.

Thank you for your advice Paul D Utherone and mrme89.

and the supportive comments from others.

I have actually been in accountancy for over 40 years. An internal auditor then a management accountant until 1991 when I commenced my own practice.

I am sure some of you will be of the opinion that I should retire !!!   but I enjoy my work and have a really good client base many of whom have expressed worry at my eventual retirement.

Back to my books then. 

 

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