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Our client is looking at entering into a corporate contract hire contract.  The vehicle is a Landrover Discovery 3.0 SDV6 HSE 5DR Auto Registration 2014/15.  Is this vehicle classed as a car or a van?.   

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By NDH
27th Aug 2015 10:19

There's quite a few considerations to make when the car/van question comes up but the one you mention looks on the face of it to be a car and i think it'd be a struggle to suggest otherwise.

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By SalimEbrahim
27th Aug 2015 10:30

Okay , we called HMRC for guidance and we were told to review VAT notice 700/64 and looking at the exemptions "vehicles of not less than 3 tonnes unladen weight".Also if you review HMRC car derived vans combi vans the above vehicle is derived as a van. Please help if you can.

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By stepurhan
27th Aug 2015 11:14

Explain

SalimEbrahim wrote:
Okay , we called HMRC for guidance and we were told to review VAT notice 700/64 and looking at the exemptions "vehicles of not less than 3 tonnes unladen weight".Also if you review HMRC car derived vans combi vans the above vehicle is derived as a van. Please help if you can.
From the specs I can find, this vehicle is about 2.5 tonnes unladen, so I don't see the exemption you cite being relevant. From images this also looks like a car, albeit a bulky one. Please explain how you have come to the conclusion this derives as a van.
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By Cloudcounter
27th Aug 2015 10:31

I'd be astonished

if the "HSE" tag was used for a commercial vehicle!  That's the top of the range

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By cheekychappy
27th Aug 2015 10:35

Is the vehicle of a construction primarily suited for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description? I would say a 5 door, windowed £60k vehicle is not.

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By johngroganjga
27th Aug 2015 10:49

I thought the distinction was a functional one. Cars are vehicles that are primarily designed for the carriage of persons. Vans are vehicles that are primarily designed for the carriage of goods. A key marker is having windows around the rear compartment. Persons like having windows to look out of. Goods couldn't care less.

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By coolmanwithbeard
27th Aug 2015 12:34

When it comes to the LR Disco John is spot on..

The original design Mk1 Discovery came in a variant with Front doors only (and a tailgate!!) and where the windows would have been was just metal plate - this was a factory model not an adapted car.

I seem to remember some discussion one time about a car version where the owner had removed the seats but even this was still classed as a car as that was how it had been constructed.

Actual use and design are two different things so whilst it would be amusing to see a new top spec Disco full of sheep and building materials it would still be a car.

Proper vans with extra seats and windows, on the other hand, tend not to become cars although the conversion used attract purchase tax and vans used to have a lower speed limit (even car derived ones)

 

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By stepurhan
27th Aug 2015 12:59

Is that a band?

coolmanwithbeard wrote:
...Disco full of sheep...
I'm not sure what sort of music they'd make though.
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By Craigie_Bhoy
28th Aug 2015 07:53

Claiming that name...........

stepurhan wrote:

coolmanwithbeard wrote:
...Disco full of sheep...
I'm not sure what sort of music they'd make though.

That is a brilliant band name!!

If you gents dont mind, I will be suggesting a namechange (whilst I'd be happy to compensate you both for coming up with the name - we aren't very good, generating any income at all will be a challenge).

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