Filing FPS early with moneysoft

Filing FPS early with moneysoft

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I have an FPS to file for one employee. I use moneysoft and usually file on / around the 30th of the month. 

I am going away tomorrow. Can I file an FPS early with moneysoft? If I click the RTI schedule it doesn't show as due yet and I have searched the notes and cannot find anything.

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By SJBarrow
25th Jul 2014 20:48

Just a note, as I read a thread earlier this week, and I don't have any other clients with payroll. I took on board some of the comments with regards to backup for leave so am going to think very carefully about whether I offer this service.

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By Mick Milne
25th Jul 2014 21:11

yes I file mine early (before the paydate)  using Moneysoft most months - it will let you.

And same as you, I am also trying to work out best way forward to cover for holidays......

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By SJBarrow
25th Jul 2014 21:23

But how?
How do you do it? If I go into the RTI schedule it doesn't give me the option to file.

Although I have just had a thought. A very strange thing has happened in that I filed June as normal but when I look at the RTI schedule it tells me that I have filed March 2015 which is really strange. My printed confirmations show June but I wonder if this is why it's not working??

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By Mick Milne
25th Jul 2014 21:34

On the main screen - 7th icon from left is the RTI button - highlight the month you want to file - eg 30th July

 

Click view/file - you get the dialogue box "This return is due on or before 30/7/14 - click on ok it lets you file as per normal

 

Your issue about March 15 is beyond my knowledge I'm afraid.  Looks like you were highlighted on the March15 line in the data input screen just before you filed June RTI - I similarly  messed  this up a few months ago and logged it with Moneysoft - if you want to pm me I can forward their response - might make more sense to you than it did to me, but they didn't seem phased by it.

 

 

 

 

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By Mick Milne
25th Jul 2014 21:43

Sorry, I am blethering (it's late) - my issue a couple of months ago was the submission of a future EPS, not FPS

Sounds like March15 FPS shown as submitted is the problem - don't know how you get round that.  Maybe one for after your holiday - late filing doesn't hit until October anyway I think

 

 

 

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By SJBarrow
25th Jul 2014 21:43

I will pm you
Thanks, the RTI schedule doesn't show the option for July which is why I now think The March filing is the issue.

I've just seen your pm come in.

Thanks I will have a read.

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By SJBarrow
25th Jul 2014 21:48

Thanks for the PM, it's not going to work for me unfortunately.

I think because it thinks March has been filed, my only option now is to file the year end details and I don't know how to undo this.

I've tried to enable temporary re submissions and if I try resubmit the one I did on the 30th June, 

 

It says: 'A full FPS submission was sent on 30th June for week 12, click here to resubmit, but when I look at the data within the FPS it says March 15.

 

Oh I didn't need this the day before I go away.

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By SJBarrow
25th Jul 2014 21:58

I've just seen your post in the middle

re EPS and not FPS.

Will I get away with this until after my holiday do you think?

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By Mick Milne
25th Jul 2014 22:02

the joys of RTI - what will they think of next???

I'm already working on auto enrolment at the moment, and will have this daft Scottish rate of tax to contend with in the next couple of years as well

Switch off, enjoy your holiday; it'll be here when you get back, recharged with a clear head

 

cheers

mick

 

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By Mick Milne
25th Jul 2014 22:05

Late returns for 2014-15 onwards

New late filing penalties will apply to returns due from employers for the tax year 2014-15 onwards. Having listened to customer feedback, HMRC is deferring the start of these penalties to give HMRC and employers more time to adapt to reporting in real time. They will now start from 6 October 2014. To avoid late filing penalties, you must make sure all submissions due are fully up to date by 5 October 2014.

Where payment information is not received as expected on an FPS, or you haven't told HMRC that no employees have been paid in a tax period by sending an EPS, late filing penalties will apply. These rules apply to each PAYE scheme, rather than each employer. So, if you operate more than one PAYE scheme you need to make sure that the FPS for each individual PAYE scheme reference is submitted on time or, where there were no payments made to any employees for a particular scheme for a tax period, you told HMRC by sending an EPS.

 

 

no late filing fees until October 14 per HMRC website - I'm sure you/Moneysoft can fix it before then

 

 

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By SJBarrow
25th Jul 2014 22:13

Thankyou

Your help has been very much appreciated and actually just making me feel as though there is someone who is or has been in a similar position and that I'm not a complete numpty.

I've sent off an email to moneysoft to try get help. So will do as you suggest and switch off until after my holiday.

I'd be worried if I couldn't fix it before October!!!

 

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By Ned Ludd
25th Jul 2014 23:26

FAO SJ BARROW
sounds like something has corrupted on the moneysoft file mate.

I had a similar thing on one of mine last week.

If you look at one of your previous RTI submissions and then look further into the actual data sent to Hmrc you will probably find that the data is for a different month to what the actual submission is saying.

It's an indexing problem and sometimes happens when you unlock previous submitted figures.

I mailed the file to moneysoft and they e mailed it back repaired.

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By SJBarrow
26th Jul 2014 06:35

Thank you Ned Ludd
Thanks Ned,

How do I look further into the data? The bits I can see for month 3 certainly do look odd.

I have emailed moneysoft so hopefully we can get it sorted. Just wish is spotted it earlier yesterday.

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By Healthpay
26th Jul 2014 08:16

Restore?
Can you not just restore to before it all went wrong and then redo?

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By Ned Ludd
26th Jul 2014 09:53

Viewing Hmrc data
Click on a RTI submission sent so it opens up the window

Across the top there will be the bar that says when it was filed. Click on that

This then opens up another screen with a couple of grey coloured tabs. One says something like "view data submitted to Hmrc"

Click on that and you'll see a horrible looking list of tags and codes which is pretty difficult to understand but if you scroll down to the actual figures submitted you'll see that dates to which the submission actually refers.

I'm guessing that those dates will be different to what the initial screen is indicating

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By cparker87
27th Jul 2014 21:29

Answer:
Get 12Pay.

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