HMR6 and UK house purchase
My UK born client who has lived in the West Indies for several years and intends to continue doing so, has recently sold his UK house that he let out, and used twice a year himself for a few weeks. He has now bought another house but does not intend to rent this one out. He will continue to come to the UK a couple of times a year for a holiday. His wife resides with him abroad. Para 2.2 of hmrc6 is alittle worrying. Can this new house tie him in sufficiently to the UK so that HMRC question his status?
Any thoughts on this gratefull received.
He lives in St Kitts which
He lives in St Kitts which does, I believe, have a DTA with the UK. HMRC have already agreed that his UK pensions can be outside the UK tax remit.
sounds like
Done and dusted then, if they agree pensions outside UK tax remit i.e. taxed as resident of St Kitts.
I was in St Kitts over Christmas - one of the nicer and quieter Caribbean islands although some of the bigger hotel chains are putting up large developments.
you are right to be concerned
The HMRC rules regarding days spent in the UK refer only to individuals who have left the UK.
HMRC sucessfully argued in Gaines Cooper that the individual had not actually left the UK. They argued that he had retained sufficient ties with the UK so that he had not actually left the UK, despite not actually being physically resident in the UK for the prescribed 91 days over a 4 year period.
Your question is not sufficiently detailed to indicate whether or not your client has retained ties to the UK. Clearly your client passes the residency test, over the four year period indicated by HMRC guidance. However, if, like Gaines Cooper, they decide that he has retained sufficient ties with the UK so as to not actually become NR, then the physical residence is not relevant.
That said, from the sounds of it, your client sounds like he has no actual ties with the UK in terms of schooling of his children, membership of clubs, business interests, and thus has been accepted as NR.
Look at the tests in the Gaines Cooper case. One of the tests incidentally, was the fact that he had retained a UK property which was for his own use (ie not rented out)
Gaines Cooper
I am not sure how relevant this case is here as with Gaines Cooper, his wife and child spent periods living in the UK and allegedly Mr Cooper spent more time in the UK then he did in the Seychelles, where he claimed to be resident.
In the OP's case, it seems clear that the client is a resident of St Kitts with a couple of small visits to the UK every year. I think HMRC would struggle to argue UK residency even though he owns a uk property.
Sorry, but if I was a HMRC Inspector, I would be suspicious...
If someone told me that a non-resident owned a property in the UK, which was not let out, but used solely for a few weeks each year by said non-resident when vacationing in the UK, I would be suspicious.
There are substantial costs in owning a property that is 'allegedly' empty for 45-weeks (+/-) a year, as well as things like insurance which would be very difficult to obtain on such a property.
I would be asking myself why anyone would do this and straightaway be thinking that maybe they use the property a lot more than a few weeks each year (i.e. they only appear to be non-resident and are in-fact possibly dual resident in the UK/West Indies) or alternately that the property is actually being let out, but the income is undeclared.
Although there MAY be a perfectly reasonable justification for this (such as security or asset appreciation), there are far more reasons why an HMRC Inspector would be suspicious.
I would be asking your client a few more questions and MAKE SURE I GET WRITTEN ANSWERS as this doesn't sound right.
UK property
The couple have always owned a house here - a seaside reosrt. The lat property had been their home and then they let it out for holidays, as well as visiting it twice a year. The only differnece with the new property - a few miles down the coast - is that they won't be letting it out. I am confident that they will not breach the 90 days average but will ensure they are clear on this rule.
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i think you may have missed the point about the 90 day rule.
this rule only really applies to people who have left the UK.
if this individual has been resident in the past HMRC may seek to establish that he has not actually left the UK.
If the numbers are significant you could consider an opinion from someone who specialises. Its not a matter that I would personally like to determine. Its possibly THE most difficult advice to give in certain circumstances. Not ideal I'm afraid.
so if he
spends say 6 weeks a year in the UK i.e. 2 holidays a year, as the OP advises at say 3 weeks a time,HMRC could argue he remains UK resident? despite the fact he has been living in St Kitts for a number of years. I dont think HMRC would have a leg to stand on. I do not see anything suspicious about retaining a seaside property in the UK so he can visit a few weeks a year.




what does para 2 of HMRC6 say?
It appears from what you say he is resident in the 'West Indies' as time spent in UK is minimal, i.e. asumme 'holiday' means approx 2 weeks?.
This being the case, I would have thought it unlikely they can question his residency. In Gaines Cooper I think he spent more time in UK then he did in Seychelles so determining residence was not clear cut.
I assume he pays his taxes in the 'West Indies' ? and is being treated as resident there.
However, the West Indies, as far as I am aware is not a country but made up of a number of territories. Has your clients 'territory' got a DTA with the UK?