How to mark an FPS as the final submission for the year

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"I called the "Payment Enquiry" helpline today and registered my scheme as annual. Relatively straightforward - only need to stipulate which month the annual payment is to be made so that HMRC know not to expect FPS's in the other months.  Advice is to mark the annual FPS as the final submission for the year and no other FPS/EPS submissions will be required for the other months (or so I was advised!)"

I posted the above comments in a few days ago in relation to a question regarding an annual payroll scheme so am slightly embarrassed to find myself stuck at the first step.

I've created the 2014/15 (Month 1) annual payment FPS's for each of the two employee directors in Basic Tools and they are sitting as Outstanding Submissions.

The trouble is I don't know where to indicate that these are the final submissions for the year!  I couldn't see any checkbox when I was creating the FPSs and I'm too nervous to see if there's an option to select after pressing the "Send all outstanding submissions" button in case there isn't!  Any advice much appreciated.

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By abelljms
14th Apr 2014 10:05

rti final

 

you are challenging the credulity of their amstrad....

 

you can't possibly know it is a final return until 6.4.15 for 2014/15, only then will the Gateway be open for such submissions?

 

i suggest you file your (peculiar) submission for april 14 now, and then file a zero return for march 15, and all will be fine.

 

i suspect in reality it is a different issue you have.

 

 

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By awdeek123
14th Apr 2014 10:21

Solved!

Just to answer my own question - I called the Employer's Helpline and was told that there is no checkbox in the FPS payment process to 'flag up' that the FPS's will be final.  

Apparently the correct procedure is to create the payment FPS's (in my case one for each of the two directors) and then select "Final submission for the tax year" from the main Employers Details menu and complete the year end questions. All three FPS may then be submitted together. This sound right to me - I was confused by instructions to 'flag' or 'mark' the FPS's as being final for the year whereas this is actually done by creating a separate FPS.

To answer abeljms point - I am able to answer the final year end questions now (in month 1) with a reasonable degree of certainty however, if anything changes during the year, I can always submit an amended final FPS.

Anyway (with luck) that's my 2014/15 payroll fully completed until I have to print the P60's in April 2015!

 

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By Euan MacLennan
14th Apr 2014 10:42

It doesn't sound right to me

awdeek123 wrote:

Apparently the correct procedure is to create the payment FPS's (in my case one for each of the two directors) and then select "Final submission for the tax year" from the main Employers Details menu and complete the year end questions. All three FPS may then be submitted together. This sound right to me -

If you pay the two directors in different months - which is the only reason why you would need one FPS for each of them - it is not an Annual Scheme.  Submission of the second FPS will automatically cancel the scheme's annual status and you will have to file nil FPSs or EPSs for all subsequent months.

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By awdeek123
14th Apr 2014 12:15

Will I be submitting a single combine FPS or 3 separate FPS's?

Euan MacLennan wrote:

awdeek123 wrote:

Apparently the correct procedure is to create the payment FPS's (in my case one for each of the two directors) and then select "Final submission for the tax year" from the main Employers Details menu and complete the year end questions. All three FPS may then be submitted together. This sound right to me -

If you pay the two directors in different months - which is the only reason why you would need one FPS for each of them - it is not an Annual Scheme.  Submission of the second FPS will automatically cancel the scheme's annual status and you will have to file nil FPSs or EPSs for all subsequent months.

 

Euan

Many thanks for your timely comments - I agree with your last point about a second FPS automatically cancelling the annual status as this was at the root of my original concern. The items are still unsubmitted so I've still got the opportunity to check and fix if required.  I entered the payment details for each of the two employees and this appears to have created two separate FPS's. Similarly, when I answered the year-end questions this also created another outstanding submission. In other words I now have under "Outstanding Submission Details" three separate records each with a "View" or "Submit" option. There is also a "Send all outstanding submissions" option - the question is, if I were to select this 'send all' option, would it submit them as a single FPS or as three separate FPS's?? 

UPDATE: Employer's Helpline advice is that submitting the three outstanding FPS records by selecting the 'Send all outstanding submissions' option will create a single FPS and not three separate FPS.

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