incorrect old p60

incorrect old p60

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I have a p60 from 2008-09 that has been filled in incorrectly by my previous employer so the hmrc think i have not paid any tax for that year.

The hmrc owed me money from a previous year when i worked abroad for a six months and have taken the balance they think i owe them from last years wages by adjusting my tax code.

I have contacted the hmrc who have been less then helpful,They have basically said they can do nothing until my previous employer re issues the p60 with the correct information on which they have refused to do. How can i sort this problem, i have no idea how to resolve this tia S

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By DMGbus
22nd May 2015 22:11

Payslips to disprove filed P60 figures

If the filed P60 was allegedly wrong and former employer declines to put right the error the onus falls on the employee to prove that the filed P60 was wrong.

The best way to do this is with payslips where the month12 (or week 52) cumulative figures contradict the filed P60 form figures.

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By lionofludesch
23rd May 2015 08:42

Uphill Struggle

If you have no proof, you'll struggle with this one.  Just tracing some kind of paperwork from so long ago will be difficult.

If not payslips,what about bank statements showing what you've received ?  Your bank might be able to produce those. A Data Protection request might be the cheapest way to get copies ....

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By Marion Hayes
23rd May 2015 09:57

Talk to ACAS

Lion's suggestion of bank statements to prove the amounts paid into the bank is the best idea.

If your P60 doesn't agree with that, and the employer refuses to correct it, I would say you had a small claims case to threaten them with for unlawful deductions from your pay.

Albeit they called it tax, you have the P60 to prove it wasn't treated as such by them.

 

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By monkelbury
23rd May 2015 14:39

thanks for the replies. I have got some payslips from that year and should be able to get the bank statements for that year, will put it all together and send to hmrc and see how i get on.

Thanks again for your help

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By Samantha20
23rd May 2015 15:24

You could also try speaking

 

to your old employer again and tell them what you are going to do.  Explain to them that if they don't give you a correct P60 that it is likely they will be investigated by HMRC once they have seen your evidence.

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By lionofludesch
24th May 2015 09:10

Threat

Samantha20 wrote:

 

to your old employer again and tell them what you are going to do.  Explain to them that if they don't give you a correct P60 that it is likely they will be investigated by HMRC once they have seen your evidence.

But try not to make it sound like a threat.

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By Samantha20
24th May 2015 19:41

Yes, thanks, I should have said that.  The OP is doing them a big favour.

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By Anne Robinson
24th May 2015 09:50

Can I ask why you have waited so long to do anything about this?
When you received the P60 all those years ago you knew then if you were paying tax at each pay day.

If your personal paperwork is like most people I know finding details at this stage will take a bit of hunting out.

In defence of the employer, if someone asked about a P60 from 5 years ago, considering with RTI possibly caused a change to software provider etc, I'm not sure it would be high priority. What would you have done if they were no longer in business?

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By monkelbury
24th May 2015 10:55

I have been chasing them since 2010,when the fault was picked up by the hmrc. the hmrc have been sending them letters and its only last year that the money was taken from me through tax code change

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By lionofludesch
24th May 2015 14:48

Complaint

monkelbury wrote:

I have been chasing them since 2010,when the fault was picked up by the hmrc. the hmrc have been sending them letters and its only last year that the money was taken from me through tax code change

Tell you what - don't bother with finding those statements.

Just make a complaint to the Officer in Charge.  The primary responsibility lies with the employer and HMRC should approach them.  You had no knowledge - how could you if your payslip said there was tax being deducted ?

You've been treated disgracefully by some bone idle HMRC officer too lazy to get off his fat backside and go and investigate the criminals you worked for six years ago.  If your P60 shows zero tax and you have even one payslip showing that tax was paid (mind you - obviously the more the merrier) you can prove that your tax was being deducted.

Don't accept this.  HMRC have no case against you.

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By monkelbury
24th May 2015 21:08

I can assure i am not doing

I can assure you i am not doing it for there benefit i have spent 4 years trying to stop them taking the money which i do not owe them and all of last year i had a tax code of 0 while they took the money.I just went round in circles being told by hmrc that they were trying to contact my employer to sort the error and being told by my previous employer that they would sort it.The thing i find really strange is its a paye problem so nothing to do with me really yet im the one that is out of pocket at the end of it.

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By lionofludesch
25th May 2015 09:41

Correct

You're absolutely right, monkelbury.  You need to up the stakes by complaining.

And don't let them tell you that they can't collect it from the employer because it's out of date.  That's their fault.  They knew about this in 2010.

Get together as much information as you can.  Try to reconcile the gross pay on the P60 with your bank statements to show you paid tax by deduction.  Send as complete a case as possible to the Officer in Charge.  Tell him you expect a reply within 30 days of the date of your letter.  Post it 14 days after writing it (no - only kidding there, that's what HMRC do).  If you don't get a reply, ask the Ombudsman to intervene - maybe explaining that your initial complaint is that the Officer in Charge hasn't replied to your complaint.

I'd take this to the Tribunal if necessary.

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By lionofludesch
25th May 2015 09:41

P60

Just out of interest, was the payroll done manually or on some form of software ?

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By monkelbury
25th May 2015 17:26

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I think for the first couple of years i was there it was done manually.

 

 

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By lionofludesch
25th May 2015 18:39

Thought so

monkelbury wrote:

I think for the first couple of years i was there it was done manually.

Yeah - thought so,

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By Richard Willis
04th Jun 2015 10:16

Regardless of the P60

What did they send in their end of year returns (P14, rusty!)?

 

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By lionofludesch
04th Jun 2015 10:54

Manual

If they're manual, they're going to be carbon copies.  99% certain.

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By monkelbury
17th Jun 2015 13:17

result

Just to update and hopefully help anyone else who has a similar problem in the future, I have had a call from HMRC today to say they are going to refund all the money owed to me with a little bit extra to cover costs and the inconvenience caused. I sent a letter to the complaints department explaining the problem, I also sent copies of the incorrect p60 and wage slips i had and offered to send copies of my bank statements. This has only taken them just over 2 weeks to sort out so why it has dragged on for 5 years i guess we will never know.

Many thanks to all the people here who have given ideas as to how this problem can be sorted and big thank you to lionofludesch.

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By lionofludesch
17th Jun 2015 13:27

No problem

You're welcome, pal.  Glad it worked out. 

 

Another satisfied customer.

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By Marion Hayes
17th Jun 2015 16:05

Congratulations

Well done for persevering. It is too easy to accept "authority"

Good result all round if they volunteered compensation (tax free of course) on top

 

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