last minute request

last minute request

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Just had someone call us (not a client) saying they need to file their ct600 by the end of this month. They are happy to pay and will be doing it in their name. I am just wondering if anyone knows of software you can use that doesnt need prior user ID etc with HMRC or if there is any way of them filing this by the 30th? Their figures and activity are small but not dormant.

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By justsotax
27th Nov 2015 17:28

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party software just requires CT ref etc....(same way as personal tax)

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By yolo rolo
27th Nov 2015 17:39

so just the utr?

I have been trying to ring andica since 4 to ask them that but no one answering. Thats good, so I can use our agent id and password and their utr even if they arent linked to our agent account? Ive always used third party for partnerships which have been linked to us so wasnt sure if it was essential. Thanks so much

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By Tim Vane
27th Nov 2015 18:27

Hmm. A deadline of Monday does not leave you much time to review the accounts and carry out MLR checks etc. Remember they are filing it in YOUR name with YOUR code, not theirs, so all your usual due diligence and review would need to be done of the accounts and tax return. Personally, it would take me longer to check somebody's accounts and return than to do the work myself, and I would not even consider being able to do that by Monday, but it depends how busy your weekend is and how much you can charge them. All seems pointless for the penalties involved, especially as (I assume) the tax was paid months ago.

Also, do be very careful that this is not a scam. Be very suspicious if the tax return ends up showing a repayment and triply suspicious if there is a nominee name entered for the repayment amount. Make sure you verify the director(s) you meet against the details at CH and refuse to do anything unless you are 100% sure everything is above board. Scams of that kind are more common with personal returns, especially in the last few days of January, but company repayment scams are not unknown and agents under pressure will often act in poor judgement and file something without the necessary checks.

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
28th Nov 2015 10:57

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All of what Tim said and make sure you get cleared funds on Monday before its filed. 

People who wait 2 days before the deadline to appoint an accountant wont be too fussy about paying your bill. 

personally I would smell trouble and tell them to scram.

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By bernard michael
28th Nov 2015 11:28

Was there an existing accountant before they approached you. If the answer is yes refuse the assignment for all the reasons given above plus you need clarification of why they left the existing firm and professional clearance.  What are the possible penalties the "client "  may incur to cause them to get this excited at the last minute and as an alternative pay your increased fee. Sounds dubious - tread carefully

As an extra precaution - run a check on current and previous directors to see what they've been/are involved with.

No has fewer letters than Yes and brings peace of mind in the wee small hours of the morning

 

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By yolo rolo
29th Nov 2015 12:32

Nothing untoward
I've known this person for 50 years and they are a relative so I'm not worried about scams etc and won't charge them. There were only a handful for entries and this is the first and last year of trading . They didn't realise they needed an hmrc account. I'm just hoping they can file with someone like andica and I'm hoping someone is there on Monday.

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