More RTI Garbage

More RTI Garbage

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Have just received a copy of a letter sent to a former client by HMRC

The letter states "You have missed a deadline for reporting PAYE information you must act now"

It continues in the same vein "you must start reporting NOW to avoid incurring penalties"

The letter has no return address or telephone number

The client Co ceased to trade in Feb 2013 and has been dissolved, It had no employees in 12/13 and the Director had other income so was never on the payroll. "not required P35" submission done.

HMRC were informed of the cessation and the request for voluntary strike off all CT returns filed and tax paid.

This is not a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing its a case of the index finger not knowing what the thumb does.

Why cant HMRC get their house in order, how much is this garbage costing

Working together !!  couldnt organise a booze up in a brewery 

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By lionofludesch
30th Aug 2013 18:44

PAYE codes

I got two PAYE codes for the same employee, showing the same effective date.  One for 180T and the other for 65T.  Which one should I use ?

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By ccassociates
30th Aug 2013 19:36

take your pick

lionofludesch wrote:

I got two PAYE codes for the same employee, showing the same effective date.  One for 180T and the other for 65T.  Which one should I use ?

... whichever one you opened 2nd lol -or, you could call the PAYE helpline. Good luck with that.........argh
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By lionofludesch
31st Aug 2013 10:35

Sum of the parts

ccassociates wrote:

lionofludesch wrote:

I got two PAYE codes for the same employee, showing the same effective date.  One for 180T and the other for 65T.  Which one should I use ?

... whichever one you opened 2nd lol -or, you could call the PAYE helpline. Good luck with that.........argh

I think I'll add them together.
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By ccassociates
30th Aug 2013 19:34

Why are we so shocked!!>?

I still amaze myself when I find I am shocked when yet another nonsense PAYE letter of one kind or another lands in our office. The daftest situation I had was when a Collector actually called our office (As we had been down as the Agent) and asked for a particular client, (Ltd) which had been dissolved 2 years earlier. I went on to C. House whilst he was on the phone and gave him the date it was dissolved. I asked why HMRC didn't do something as basic as a free C. House check before sending a collector, and he said he had no idea. I passed this to our AAM and said in the current climate and "Cutbacks" surely sending a collector to dissolved Companies was not sensible when a quick 30 second free check was available before they left the office. Funnily enough, I never got a reply. Note to self - chase that one up! As for RTI - what a total load of tosh. I have had enough of it all already, and the daft "You haven't filed one this month" letters are nothing more than scrap paper that go straight in the shredder in our office as you said, no address, phone number etc on them, just a total waste of money and resources by HMRC yet again

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By DMGbus
30th Aug 2013 20:43

Two code scenario (duplicate record problem)

I've had a number of split tax code issues (about 15 employers / 30 employees in total from memory).

SCENARIO

One employee has one employment only.

Two PAYE codes issued (same issue date) to employer.

The two codes added together = correct code.

HMRC had incorrectly split the code into two, as if two jobs with same employer.

I believe that this HMRC's RTI system erroneously creating a duplicate record.    HMRC are aware of the problem, but for PR purposes it must be "swept under the carpet" as RTI must be portrayed as a success story.

Wrote to HMRC and dodgy excuse of a story back from HMRC was that I was wrong to state a true employment start date on the EAS.

For the small employers that I deal with I'm able to spot this sort of error by HMRC, but I can foresee lots of undiagnosed problems of a similar nature where with large payrolls the payroll operator will have to accept PAYE codes at face value and not query them, just apply them roboticly.

 

 

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