Online registration for Self Assessment

Online registration for Self Assessment

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HMRC has today issued this release about CAAT turnaround times.

Apparently, it takes 6 weeks to register and individual or partnership for self-assessment even when you do it online.  To be able to submit tax returns by 31st January, the cut-off date for applications is said to be 20th December (as if anyone at HMRC will be working between then and 2nd January).

You have been warned!

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Stepurhan
By stepurhan
21st Nov 2013 12:32

Warning for the already late

Anyone that has notifiable income should already have registered by now, let alone 20th December. Not that this excuses a ridiculous delay for handling registrations, especially online ones, but it should only affect the already tardy.

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By The Innkeeper
21st Nov 2013 12:45

One wonders

if the tardiness of HMRC would be viewed as reasonable excuse by the FTT. I assume that HMRC would not

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By carnmores
21st Nov 2013 12:47

its pathetic

this is simply not good enough. why does it take so long whats the problem ? is there a huge backlog? how many taxpayers does one member of staff process per day we should be told

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By Euan MacLennan
21st Nov 2013 12:48

Yes, but ...

... there would be no penalty for failing to notify chargeability by 5th October if the tax return is submitted by 31st January.

Am I being cynical or is HMRC being tardy about SA registrations in order to maximise penalties?

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By tonycourt
21st Nov 2013 12:52

Not long ago....

....I initiated one over the telephone. It took less than 10 days from beginning to end, i.e. activation of the service. However....

I agree (once again) with Stepurham's comments, but wonder what the tribunals will make of it in a situation where someone tries to register at the end of December but HMRC can't do it in time. Ignoring issues over failure-to-notify penalties and considering only those for late filing, I suspect (and would hope) that a tribunal would give HMRC short shrift and allow an appeal.

If the government (HMRC) sets a deadline and insists that the submission of a document is done electronically it must surely provide sufficient resources, no matter how inconvenient it is, to allow people to register in a reasonable amount of time - six weeks isn't reasonable in my view no matter how tardy the individual has been - two wrongs don't make a right!

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PJ
By paulgrca.net
21st Nov 2013 13:05

6 Weeks is wrong

Did two last week took just under two weeks currently waiting on a further two done last week should be through any day now

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By The Innkeeper
21st Nov 2013 13:18

@tonycourt@euan

What would be a disgrace if penalties are charged and an appeal has to go to FTT. Euan -you cynical - no more so than most of us here

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By carnmores
21st Nov 2013 14:51

by the way

if i get online authorisation for a CT client and enter the key and the client gets activated i would have expected the client to appear on my portal , but its nearly a week and no joy , am i correct and what to do ? is it a thumb twiddling exercise?

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Stepurhan
By stepurhan
21st Nov 2013 15:07

Government Gateway

You probably need to log on to the Government Gateway and assign the client to yourself. A ludicrous extra hoop to jump through but there you go. Login page can be accessed via the link below. Just click "Enter the Government Gateway" on that page to get it. (Can't link to it direct) You should be able to use your normal HMRC credentials to log in.

www.gateway.gov.uk

 

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By Alan Ferris
21st Nov 2013 15:07

Last Minute

Would we have this problem if most people did not leave it until the last moment?  It is always the case that there are many who put everything off until December.

 

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