RTI Penalties

RTI Penalties

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With penalties due to be introduced next month for failure to submit FPS on time should we continue to ignore these notices when a FPS was submitted? Or from next month will we need to appeal against each penalty wrongly issued?

I'm sure this has been discussed in length elsewhere but having received one this week I am still concerned as October approaches.

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By neiltonks
09th Sep 2014 11:39

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It depends whether you're satisfied that the late submission notices really are wrongly issued.

Basically, a notice is issued if the date on which the FPS is physically received is after the payment date declared within the FPS. So if you're happy that your FPS's are always sent on or before that date, you might decide to ignore the notices. But it's a risk, because you may miss a genuine late submission.

On common cause of problems is to incorrectly quote the pay period end date as the payment date in the FPS rather than the date the employee will receive the money. If the payroll is in arrears, this will mean that HMRC think the submission is late and this will result in a notice being issued (and in due course, a penalty).

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By Yonder Dave
09th Sep 2014 12:16

Thanks Neil, but

all FPS's are submitted on or before the paydate and I am still getting these random Generic Notification Notices.

When they first started I phoned HMRC and each time I was told to ignore them. Since then I have stopped wasting my time on the phone but I am concerned that from next month I will keep having to call HMRC to cancel a penalty.

Update - I have just got through to HMRC and they cannot see why the notice was issued, and I should ignore it. Interestingly the person at HMRC said that penalties for late filing of FPSs for small businesses is being suspended until next March, but that hasn't been announced yet!

Could that be an admission that there are still problems with the system.

Just a thought - if everyone stopped querying these erroneous notices would that mislead HMRC to think the problem had been solved? No queries = no problem.

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