SSP after contractural sick pay

SSP after contractural sick pay

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Hi There,

My company offers employees 10 days of contractualsick pay.

If an employee was off for 10 consecutive days, and therefore then went onto SSP, would there be a gap of 3 'waiting days' before SSP kicked in, or is the time they were on the contractualsick pay counted as those waiting days?

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By Euan MacLennan
06th Nov 2015 18:08

Strictly speaking ...

SSP is payable by law from the 4th qualifying day of a Period of Incapacity for Work, so the first 3 days the employee is off sick are waiting days and then, you are supposed to start paying SSP.  In the old days, you would do this to prove that SSP was being paid in accordance with the law and deduct the same amount from the contractual sick pay, so that the employee ends up with just the contractual sick pay.  However, there is not much point in doing this now that SSP is no longer recoverable under the % scheme.

To answer your question, you would pay full SSP from the 11th day off sick.

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By Matrix
07th Nov 2015 06:51

I am not the OP but out of interest how would you do this in Moneysoft?  How do you go straight from a normal payday to a SSP day - it only pays SSP from 4th day?

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By Euan MacLennan
07th Nov 2015 15:00

Simple

Matrix wrote:

I am not the OP but out of interest how would you do this in Moneysoft?  How do you go straight from a normal payday to a SSP day - it only pays SSP from 4th day?

You would set the off sick Ambulance icon from Day 8 of the period of sick - days 8 to 10 are then treated as waiting days and SSP would start from the 11th day.

Processing the SSP correctly from Day 4 and topping up to the full amount of contractual pay was essential when some SSP could be recovered, but the other point is that it proves that the employer has complied with the law to pay SSP if the employee were ever to question it.

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By lionofludesch
07th Nov 2015 08:49

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Let Moneysoft work out the SSP then give additional pay to make up the difference.

SSP is just a minimum.  You can pay more but not less.

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By Matrix
07th Nov 2015 09:25

So you mean if an employee takes a sick day and the employer pays them their full wages you should book it as SSP and top up with their normal wages?  Employers do not usually tell me if their employees are sick and they are just paying them as normal.

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By lionofludesch
08th Nov 2015 10:21

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Matrix wrote:

So you mean if an employee takes a sick day and the employer pays them their full wages you should book it as SSP and top up with their normal wages?  Employers do not usually tell me if their employees are sick and they are just paying them as normal.

It's the easiest way to show you're paying minimum SSP.  Obviously if your clients can't be bothered to give you the information, that's their problem.

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By neiltonks
08th Nov 2015 15:46

Start of absence

SSP needs to kick in at the start of the absence (and would become payable after the 3 waiting days), offsetting it against the contractual sick pay while the latter is in payment. That way, if the absence turns out to be long-term, SSP will expire at the right point. You get 28 weeks SSP from the day the absence starts, not 28 weeks after contractual sick pay runs out.

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By mellows23
09th Nov 2015 08:27

Thanks for your help.

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