VAT New Registration

During June after consultation with my accountant my 12 month rolling turnover during May/June of this year required me to register for vat, which my accountant did on my behalf. He had let me know that the VAT Registration was applied for on 16 July 2010. also that I would need to charge VAT at 17.5% on all work invoiced from "1st August 2010",  I got my certificate of registration from HMRC at the begining of August but it has an effective date of "1st July 2010" because I did not add VAT to my invoices during July I'm now liable for approx £2000.00 VAT charge. My labour is sub-contracted to one large company and so is it possible that can I still charge this company for the VAT on these July invoices allthough these invoices have already been received and paid by the company.

 

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Euan MacLennan's picture

And the question is ...?

Euan MacLennan | | Permalink

If your 12-month rolling turnover exceeded £70,000 by the end of May, you should have been registered for VAT from 1st July; if you exceeded the limit by the end of June, then you should have been registered from 1st August.

However, since you appear to have been registered from 1st July, then you should indeed now invoice your customer for the VAT only, quoting your VAT registration number on this and all future invoices.  It is probably better to issue a credit note without VAT to cancel the original invoice and then issue a proper invoice with VAT.

Malcolm McFarlin's picture

VAT registration

Malcolm McFarlin | | Permalink

You need to go back to your accountant to clarify the matter. Basically once you go over the VAT threshold you must notify HMRC within 30 days of the end of the relevant month. HMRC will register you within 30 days of the end of the relevant month. i.e if you were liable to register by 31 May 2010 -you must notify HMRC by 30 June 2010, HMRC will register from 1 July 2010 unless mutually agreed otherwise.

HMRC can amend your effective date of registration if it is wrong -without knowing your relevant t/o figures it is difficult to comment further

Malcolm McFarlin

www.mandrtaxadvisers.com

My Reply

Robg | | Permalink

 

Thanks for your replies,

I'll follow these up and do what is best recommended,  also to contact the company I contract to and notify them of my intentions.

But I’m a bit peeved by my existing accountant’s brief reply to my email about my shock and concerns to this matter, and the possibility to losing a great amount of money,  

his reply to this was  (And this is a cut and paste from his complete email)

Robin,

Yes this does mean that any income ivoiced from 1 July is deemed to inlude VAT at 17.5% However any purchases from that date which include VAT can have VAT claimed to set off the above.  

Regards,

 ***** *******

And then not to get a reply to my second email on how to tackle this problem.

Any good accountants out there, I just want a good honest service, and good honest advice, and one who know's their business.

Sorry but I've lost confidence in this one, couple of other things have happened in the past as well.

Cheers

Rob 

Phil Rees's picture

Where are you?

Phil Rees | | Permalink

We cover Beds, Bucks and Herts and are small enough to care.

Private messaging is available through this website.

Nottingham

Robg | | Permalink

we are based in Nottingham, Robin Hood country.

Chris Smail's picture

Manchester

Chris Smail | | Permalink

Seeing as everybody is having a go

They paid me the VAT. Wow

Robg | | Permalink

Wow...what a worry lifted.

I re-issued all my invoices for the month of July on Monday 30th August to the company in question, with the VAT included, each invoice was now showing payment received and the VAT still outstanding.

Then a week later the invoices for the VAT was met. Fantastic.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

What a great site this is.

Cheers

Rob