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I question The Flying Scotsman
Hi Rachael
I was disappointed not to hear from you either way, but I appreciate you had to pick two people . It might of been helpful to have an undecided accountant to explain the reasons or yes accountant voter for fairness of discussion.
It shows how little he knows about the debate. The Yes movement is not about Alex Salmond this shows little understanding. It is about a movement of people who want a fairer society. Their are hundreds of yes voters who can not stand Alex Salmon.
Alex Salmond will not need to stand down I know plenty of people who are voting no but have said they will vote Alex back in because he shouts for Scotland. I am looking forward to the vote but I have not made my mind up yet. This podcast would not influence me one way or the other.
Also the interest of fairness there have been a lot of comment about the tone and the way voter are behaving in the debate this was released from BBC Police Scotland today.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29235197
I agree...
AS won't need to stand down. He's going to come out of this a winner either way.
Vote for Gordon to replace ...
Alex Salmond after his performance last night in favour of a no vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39bBV7CBJk
as an undecider
Hi
I have not voted yet. I have taken the day off and I will go for a 20 mile cycle to clear my head before I vote. I agree Gordon Brown is a good speaker but he kept talking in the 3rd person or some weird way to the undeciders . You tell them . Why not just address it to the undecideds. There is no point in either side preaching to the already converted.
It is so quite up here it is weird and quite but everyone is excited either way. As I lover of politics whoever wins I have been inspired as a 45 old by the 16 to 18 olds on both sides they have debated better than the adults. If those youngsters like Radio 1 and other younger debates are to go by then we have a good future ahead of us either way.
I thought when Gordy said 'You tell 'em'
He wasn't referring to the undecided, he meant telling the nationalists that Scotland belongs to everyone, and not just the yes voters. He was getting the point across that the call for patriotism from the yes voters is ridiculous. Voting 'yes' does not mean that only you are patriotic, and nobody else is. 'No' does not mean you do not love Scotland, and want the best for it's future.
Maybe we hear what we want to hear, and Scotland staying within the union is what I want to hear, so I heard it!
Refuse to hear what we don't want to ...
@ShirleyM - you are absolutely right, GB was all inclusive - no threats, no us & them sectarianism, no un-patriotic innuendo
And the flip side to '.. we hear what we want to hear ..' is that we refuse to hear what we don't want to hear - this is the main issue with heart over head
regardless of who wins
whoever wins knows Scotland belongs to everyone. So it was a patronising and many have said that this morning in the local shop on both sides. I know plenty of people voting either way and one thing we all know what ever the result. We all have to work together and Scotland belongs to everyone. Scotland will not be successful in a union or independence if we don,t.
Don,t believe everything you see in the media either I have seen plenty of misreporting on both sides of events when I was actually there. I have been going to everything to listen to both sides.
I am not denying their are extremists on both sides but please the no have also tried to intimate. The orange men and other people up from wales , England and NI was nothing but intimation. I don,t judge either campaign better than the other but all I can say living in Scotland it has been equal.
I really like debate but what I do know is half of our family are voting one way and the other the other way. One thing we all know is Scotland belongs to us all.
What the media is not showing it the ordinary day to day person on the street and they are not killing each no matter how much the media is trying to drive up the hate . What ever the decision I will not forgive the media for some of their coverage and playing people off against each. All they are after is a good story and they could not give a flying eeffing about the UK or Scotland they just want to sell papers
Agreed, Sarah
It's wrong to say that anyone who votes 'no' is being unpatriotic. Scotland belongs to all the Scots, and they should vote whichever way they think gives Scotland the better future.
Likewise, in the event of a split, the UK should do whatever is best for the rest of the UK, and that will mean being in direct competition with Scotland for jobs and everything else.
Rather sceptical …
@sarah – ‘.. Scotland belongs to everyone ..’ this may be so and a great concept, but has never been obvious from AS rhetoric, which has implied otherwise.
Unfortunately in the past AS seem to have adopted a ‘Pontius Pilate’ approach where violence / intimidation is concerned and this does not really sit well in a democracy. It is convenient to blame the media for reporting because shifting blame either pretends things haven’t happened or exonerates those involved. But surely not all reporting can be brushed aside in this manner because the message is unpaletable / inconvenient?
We will no doubt see what happens at the polling stations, however, stationing pipers & ‘pickets’, or scrawling graffiti (‘.. vote yes or else ..’) at the entrance to make voters feel uncomfortable is not really the way forward - reminiscent of the ‘scab’ days of unions. However, time will tell how events unfold and I hope the whole thing passes off without any incidents
As for the Orangemen – I would guess there is history here which actually harks back to Ireland. ROI / Northern Catholics and Orangemen have been on opposing sides for decades. Don’t forget great swaths of Catholics landed in the West of Scotland escaping from the North of Ireland and were regarded as a threat by the Scottish people at the time because of their ability to ‘colonise’ quickly – giving rise to sectarian issues. To all accounts many of these Catholics in the west would now seem to be mainly AS current ‘yes’ voters
I was in Dundalk around ’67 with family at the time the troubles blew up and had first-hand experience of threats from the IRA against anyone who didn’t adhere to their agenda, including their own people – despite denials that it was going on – so forgive my scepticism because I have seen it before
Damage
Whatever the outcome, Alex Salmond has managed to split Scotland in half, and there will be a lot of bad feeling by the losing side, which I suspect will be the "yes" side. Add to that the immense resentment towards Scotland by the rest of Britain which Alex Salmond's lies and demands have caused, and I think there are wounds which could take generations to heal.
Well my vote is cast
And I no longer feel the trepidation that I did. Nothing to do with the fact that my vote will contribute towards what I hope will be the right result for Scotland. No, I feel a strange kind of relief - knowing that I can do nothing more to influence the result (as if I had any such influence in the first place). Tomorrow - amongst all the discussions - life will continue as normal and, for the next couple of years at any rate, life for the (wo)man in the street is likely to be pretty much unchanged, even with a Yes result. As far as I'm concerned, the pressure would all be on the Yes side to deliver all the promises and prove me wrong. And if I'm wrong, Yes get in and deliver as promised then we're all winners. If No wins, and promises are broken, then we're all losers - in the short term, but at least we may get a second bite at the cherry. My only fear is that if Yes succeed, and do not deliver - then we're all stuffed, permanently.
Really excited
For some reason - I have been really excited about the Scottish Referendum. Keep wanting it to go one way then the other:
Head - says no, for all the economic reasons etc.
Heart - yes - for pure entertainment factor that will keep us interested for years.
Let's see..
I am in George square at the moment.
I took the day off . I am in George square at the minute , because I love politics and it is very exciting and a part of history . I have said to many in the square I struggled with my vote . I not going to say want I voted as I believe we all have to work together and I respect everyone . I believe strongly in a secret ballot . Either way I have never seen anything like it. I really hope all the passion I have seen from both sides continues for all of the UK and we see our young voting again. Peace and love to all . I am really quite emotional now but I will happy either way because finally we have a vote everyone has got involved in Scotland . I understand people feel strongly about not having a vote and I mean no disrespect . I am talking about the young and people who have not been engaged in politics for such a long time