Hi I am Alan Kennedy - a Chartered Accountant with over 20 years experience so we have the knowledge to help you and your clients. We provide services to clients in mainly oxfordshire but also outsource bookkeeping, accounts preparation and consultancy services to the accountancy profession. Also a partner in a business brokerage - specialising in buying and selling accountancy fees.
How much do you charge?
Hi all - here we go the first blog post. Let me give you a bit of background. I run a small accountancy practice here in Witney and occasionally publish stuff under the name Witney accountants for reasons I will deal with in a later blog. Well I have had a fascinating time being an accountant - have built two accountancy practices and helped two others build a couple of businesses (taking one from £3M to £9M turnover) so in essence I am a serial entrepreneur.
The purpose of this blog is to give you a few ideas and links that should help you all build your business. When I was building a financial advisory business I often used to ask the advisors - are you a salesman or an advisor. The answer given by the low income earners was either I am adviser or a sales person but the high earners gave the answer "both". The same is true of accountants - for example over the past four years I have visited or spoken to over five hundred firms and asked many of them how much they would charge for a quickbook set of accounts with turnover of 250K and simple corporate and personal tax returns. The range was amazing ranging from £550 (in Northern Ireland) to £2500 in central London. I had one week where two firms (five miles apart) quote fees of £1250 difference (£750 vs £2,000). I would be interested to know what you charge. The answer therefore to what makes a successful accountancy practice has to be therefore not only do we need to be good at advising but also good at selling. More of this later and also some interesting technical stuff. Do give me some feedback on the content and if you want to speak the web address is www.smithkennedy.co.uk Thanks Alan Kennedy
What to charge?
Hi Della - thanks for the comment. It sounds like you are doing very well for a start up. The only comment I would make it is not necessary to increase your fees because you have offices or staff. The idea of offices and staff is that the process becomes more effecient. Also the price should be based on what the value you provide possibly tempered by "the going market rate".














What to charge?
Alan,
As I've only been trading for a year this is still one of my dilemmas. I seem to be getting it right more through luck than anything else. By this I mean my clients seem happy with the service that they are getting for their money (I send out a satisfaction survey after each job)
First I have to estimate how much time the job will take based on what the client tells me (open to error here). I then do two calculations: (1) I multiply the total time by my personal hourly rate (I'm a sole trader so, for now, I cover everything from the book-keeping up and my average hourly rate reflects this) (2) I multiply by 3 different hourly rates depending on the level of experience/qualification that each element of the job requires. My fee is based on these two figures but there is some subjectivity regarding the risk on time estimate, how much the client is willing to pay and even how easy I think they will be to work with.
What I am selling is my time but the client is buying is a professional job or just pain relief from the dreaded accounts. Do you ask how much your PC cost to make or what you're getting for your money?
I believe that my fees are about the same as other Chartered Accountants. I don't have office overheads but I am currently spending a lot on CPD and marketing. I also don't want to lose all my hard won clients if I expand into 3rd party premises and have to suddenly increase my prices.
I do not try to compete with the very cheap accountants who must turn around tax returns faster than you can say "continuing professional development" or "professional indemnity insurance". If clients are happy that's a different market.
Even though I charge fixed fees I still record my time against each client so that, in future, I can have a better idea of time spent on each client/type of client. This means that I'm getting more confident at quoting fees.
The main benefit of a fixed fee for me is that all but one of my clients pay the full amount on standing order so that I don't waste time on debt collection.