Iris launch free payroll software

Yes it is true - a free payroll program for organisations with up to 10 employees.

I know most people have been on here to, in many respects quite rightly, pull Iris up on their short comings in recent releases of their practice suite, but here is something I found on their website.

small-business-software.iris.co.uk/free_resources/news/news_articles/product_launch_payroll_basics.aspx

It looks basic, but does all that is needed for straightforward and simple payrolls, and will also file online during the year and at year end.

Only catch is that you need to buy Iris payslips, but at £30 + VAT for 250 (likely to last you at least 6 months but maybe over a year depending on number of employees) that won't break the bank.

Hope your watching Iris - something positive about you on here for once

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BigBadWolf's picture

Payslips - even stationery from IRIS is a Rip off!

BigBadWolf | | Permalink

Only catch is that you need to buy Iris payslips, but at £30 + VAT for 250 (likely to last you at least 6 months but maybe over a year depending on number of employees) that won't break the bank.

You can actually get very good quality IRIS COMPATIBLE payslips for £28 + VAT for 1000 - i.e. less than 1/4 the price IRIS want to charge you  - from http://www.customforms.co.uk/  - agreed that 1000 payslips are going to last you a long time.

Sorry David - I Know you were trying to keep things positive - but I couldn't resist - besides i think the readers should know about better/cheaper alternatives.

Paul Scholes's picture

This will test a few firms' paperless policy

Paul Scholes | | Permalink

Haven't sent a paper payslip for over two years, in fact I'm sure we still have a stock (Ebay here I come).  Given that I hate my current payroll software will I be tempted? 

sally1964's picture

Speak to your accountant

sally1964 | | Permalink

I have a number of clients who need IRIS payslips who only have a couple of employees each month.

As we buy on mass we are happy to give our clients a few each year to keep them going. Its all part of our service, keeps our client happy, added service without cositng us anything really.

 

Perhaps your accoutant does the same.

 

 

TURBOD's picture

Free Payroll Software - Iris

TURBOD | | Permalink

I think it is a good thing that Iris are supporting small businesses in this way with FREE payroll software. I am sure they might be hoping that once those businesses grow they may need other products like the Exchequer Enterprise Software and come to Iris as a known supplier. Not sure I would be happy with the FREE statement when in fact it isn’t. A better tact might be to offer the Iris payslips at a reasonable rate and not to make it a compulsory stipulation. Iris Software synonymous with false advertising?

RichardWhight's picture

Turbo D

RichardWhight | | Permalink

Now now, if we're nice they might give IAO away free too :))

It's a nice gesture considering the current economical climate and maybe a change in direction for the group. I'm going to wait and see what they do next. You never know, I might end up posting here as an employee again!

 

Rich

Because they are kind or because they can't sell it?

grant170479 | | Permalink

Traditional payroll software is currently under attack from cheaper/free alternatives in the cloud software market.

For the ever more web savvy and cost concious client, a quick Google search brings up alternatives like Payroo.com.

These websites offer HMRC accredited software online free of charge (for the price of watching a few adverts) and are quite appealing to those businesses who are hapy to take on the payroll processing themselves but had previously swayed away from options like Sage and Iris because of the prohibitive costs involved.  I believe you can prepare payslips and year end forms, submit the payslips to employees electronically and transmit everything necessary to HMRC over the internet.

In any case, this market is one I think we will see considerable change in given the governments recent announcement over its plans to alter the whole PAYE service.  Maybe the long term strategies for 'complacent' software houses is beginning to creak and move towards a more practical and flexible offering - for me this cannot come too soon.

TURBOD's picture

Richard Whight

TURBOD | | Permalink

It is true that Turbo Dynamics are not one of Iris' 'Happy Customers' (and with good reason) but my question put forward to the group was to establish the general view on what Iris advertise versus what they actually deliver. Iris make claims of total customer satisfaction whereas all the customers I have spoken too all seem to have some form of gripe with both the software and service received. On several occasions I have taken the time to complete their survey's and never had any response. Strangely the same can be said for post roadshow forms where I have requested sales information on new products!

BigBadWolf's picture

Turbo Dynamics

BigBadWolf | | Permalink

I have to agree with TD, Iris are very poor on delivery - It think they are just too big for their boots now, and do not give a damn about their small customers!

They have still failed to publicy apologise over the iris 10.2 - 10.3 upgrade debacle, much less offer all customers across the board a goodwill gesture to ALL affected customers!

A simple question to BigBadWolf and TD...

FriendlyFlower | | Permalink

Why do you continue to use IRIS if you are so dissatisfied by their software and service?

TD - You use IRIS Excheqeur I understand, so why are you posting in this the Iris Accountancy PRACTICE software forum...

BigBadWolf - You seem to leap on every comment (Good or Bad) on here and twist it to your agenda. what has payroll software got to do with the 10.2 and 10.3 releases? Are you really a Iris user or do you work for one of Iris's competitors?

I am sure I speak for the majority of forum users here that I am fed up with the one sided contributions of the minority.

Apologies to the majority of forum users for this outburst...

TURBOD's picture

Outburst from FriendlyFlower

TURBOD | | Permalink

You are correct, Turbo Dynamics (one of my businesses) does use IRIS Exchequer as it’s enterprise accounting software. Also with an interest in an accounting practice who migrated it’s software to an SQL version a couple of years ago (around the same time that Turbo Dynamics were considering a move to the SQL version of Exchequer and indeed offering to be a beta test site for the product), I feel I have every right to post here.

mikekirk started the thread Welcome to the Iris Exchequer Discussion Group 22 weeks ago and clearly there are a number of members that also take an interest both for themselves and their clients using this software.

I would point out to you that in my post dated Mon, 09/08/2010 – 19:30, I was initially commenting positively towards IRIS (“I think it is a good thing that Iris are supporting small businesses in this way with FREE payroll software”).

Furthermore, I would say that there are a huge amount of good features and attributes with the Exchequer product. I looked at the suitability of this product against others (a process that took several months and meetings with Exchequer as they were then) and would not have chosen it if it did not have a long list of positives. I will not go into all the details here of how TD was mislead regarding certain areas of the product and the torrid time this business has had over the last few years.

However, to answer your valid question, ‘why do we continue to use IRIS ….’ – I would simply say that changing to another system would be a huge undertaking both financially and in terms of the time to migrate/import the data from Pervasive to whichever back end database the other system ran on. Having made what was a large financial investment at the time not to mention the disruption to the business in general, it would not be something that could just be done at the flick of a switch. We have also spent a substantial amount of time and money integrating our other MS SQL and My SQL databases and internal system with Exchequer.

As it happens we also use IRIS’s payroll software (IRIS PAYE – Master 5.9.0.11), which I might add has also not been problem free over the years. As all these products fall under the one umbrella (IRIS), I think the sharing of experiences and indeed solutions is right and proper. I would bring to your attention the very positive and helpful posts regarding open period accounting, stock valuations & trial balances. Information sharing like this being one of the positives of open forums.

Iris will be judged on their responses to complaints and criticism lodged by their customers through whatever media.

As for BigBadWolf – I would recommend a more cautious approach to making that sort of allegation?

Peter Marsh

BigBadWolf's picture

Friendly Flower - Not so friendly!

BigBadWolf | | Permalink

BigBadWolf - You seem to leap on every comment (Good or Bad) on here and twist it to your agenda. what has payroll software got to do with the 10.2 and 10.3 releases? Are you really a Iris user or do you work for one of Iris's competitors?

Yes I am really an IRIS user, not a competitor, (I have made a couple of non IRIS related posts as well)

 I have recently made frequent posts with disparaging remarks against IRIS - because I am fed up of the way they treat us small practioners - the frequency of the posts is due to the fact that if I don't shout, I don't get heard! I know for a fact IRIS Employees read this thread - so perhaps they will sit up and take notice.

It looks like it has worked, because it seems you are an IRIS employee judging by the fact; the only time you have bothered to post on accounting web is in strong defence of IRIS!

 

I am sure I speak for the majority of forum users here that I am fed up with the one sided contributions of the minority.

 

The majority of IRIS users I have come across, through various events and accountancy networks have echoed my dissatisfaction! Just because they don't post on here doesn't make them a minority! The fact that you don't see very many recommendations or positive post about IRIS, as oppose to software like VT & Moneysoft should clearly show that unlike you the majority of people aren't all that happy with IRIS.

 

Why do you continue to use IRIS if you are so dissatisfied by their software and service?

We ditched IRIS PAYE Master last year, to a cheaper and better alternative and have never looked back.

IRIS Practice Software used to be great product with decent support - I hope if i shout loud enough, someone at IRIS will take notice, and refocus their energy on the core product and support, and things will improve.

If you were an accountant in an established practice, you would know that switching systems isn't as easy as switching from MS Office to say Open Office - it is alot more involved than that. We as a firm, have invested significantly in IRIS, building processes & training around the system.

Changing over to a new system would mean a significant financial investment, and migrating yous standing data and historic client data from IRIS to another system is quite a task, and not exactly made easy by IRIS. There would be disruption to our processes and client service, and significant cost in training staff both in terms of time taken and financially.

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