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Child benefit: Where George got it wrong

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27th Apr 2012
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Over the past week the profession has torn apart the Chancellor’s plans to change the rules for child benefit.

This article summarises the key issues and offers advice from the AccountingWEB community to help George Osborne out of the latest tax pit he’s dug himself into.

For many the Chancellor’s High Income Child Benefit Charge (HICBC) announcement last month violated all the principles the government laid down a year ago – simplification, fairness, efficiency and certainty.

Child benefit is set to be progressively withdrawn from households where someone earns at least £50,000 at the rate of 1% for every £100 above this threshold.

This has thrown up a number of anomalies, meaning that a two-income couple can earn £99,000 a year and keep all their benefit, while a single-income couple on £60,000 loses it all.

Simplicity

AccountingWEB member anthonydyer said the new measure would create “anti-simplification”, which goes against what we've been led to expect: “Didn't we all see the problems coming when Child and Working Tax Credits were put in place? Well, I see the same and worse happening now. The administrative cost of all those extra tax returns and calls to HMRC for explanation are going to cost a fortune in admin."

David Heaton of Baker Tilly said in the firm's tax brief this week that the concept of the charge is simple, but HMRC will "have to deal with week-to-week issues, such as broken marriages, temporary and semi-permanent cohabitation, children moving between separated parents, children of the same relationship living with different parents, polygamous overseas marriages, mistakes about whether a woman can elect out of receiving child benefit, and more.”

Independent taxation

A key issue here is around independent taxation. People will be able to find out from HMRC if their partners receive child benefit, and force partners to share their financial information with each other, breaching key tax confidentiality principles that have become embedded within the system.

Rebecca Benneyworth highlighted this issue: “So how do you know whether you are due to pay a tax charge when you live as man and wife with someone who does not disclose their income to you? How will HMRC know who should be in this tax charge? They don't necessarily know who you live with or whether they receive child benefit, and the taxpayer can't know because he doesn't know how much his wife's income is.

“By trying to effectively draw this money back through the tax system, the situation they've created is in my view impossible to work because it depends on knowledge of income, which you have no right to gain.

“Phoning up HMRC to find out is just a non-starter. Imagine someone who has split up or is trying to sort their tax out from a previous year and they're already in an acrimonious divorce - the consequences of one being able to ring up HMRC and being able to find out the income of the other, is a explosive.”

The execution here is clearly not simple, and the ease of compliance will depend on how HMRC choose to collect the data and how they use it.

Fairness

The new measures mean that two parents who each earn £50,000 keep all of their child benefit, despite how many children they have.

However Benneyworth flagged up the "very aggressive" marginal tax rates that would result in her Budget Analysis Report.

Heaton concurred, pointing out that fairness diminishes with the increasing size of the family. For a family with one child that’s a marginal tax rate of 52.6% (instead of 42%); with three children it’s 66.5%; five children 80.4%; and eight children 101.3%.

Benneyworth said: “For the next year or so in any event families with five or more children will still be getting child tax credit at £50,000. This puts the rate for five kids up a bit and the rest up by 41% in each case. Marginal rates run up to 150% with a very large family (nine or more).”

Heaton added: “The tension caused by removing a social security benefit by means of the tax system, where the rules are fundamentally different,  promises to test the government’s and HMRC’s ability to manage.

“Tax credit policing has been a notorious challenge, but policing the HICBC with 1.2m family units (which won’t be the same group this week as next week’s 1.2m) who can potentially get it wrong will be even more of a challenge.”

Efficiency & certainty

The new HICBC is set to bring an additional half million people into Self Assessment.

The impact on efficiency is compounded with the extra tax returns and correspondence that will be required.

On an administrative level, Benneyworth said: “I understand that somewhere around 4.5m letters will be sent to those with income of more than £50,000 to establish how many of them live with someone in receipt of child benefit or are in receipt of child benefit themselves. That's quite a lot of letters and quite a lot of cost. Then you have to follow up the no replies - quite high I suspect. Then you have to match the records. Then you have to check who is the higher earning of the two, but using net adjusted income, which you can't do unless you bring the whole lot into Self Assessment.”

There’s also the issue of affecting the PAYE codes of 1.2m families and coping with more than 14,000 births per week.

David Heaton said this looks like a “fail” and that the novel introduction of a new tax charge on 7 January rather than at the end of the tax year will add to the burden.

“HMRC is to write this autumn to those who will be affected, although how they can possibly know with any certainty who is currently cohabiting with whom, and might therefore be liable, is anybody’s guess,” he said.

With many fluid households and low job security plus fluctuating incomes, it’s not clear whether the HICBC applies until after the end of the year.

Heaton added: “On the other hand, it seems certain that two one-parent families will think twice about sharing their lives under one roof if the higher earner is to pay for the child benefit of the children of the other co-habitee.”

The new legislation does not require extra information on returns before the next tax year and as such the charge for January to March will not be included in PAYE codes this year.

Solution

Summarising the concerns of many within the profession, Rebecca Benneyworth said the new measures were “unworkable”, and urged the government to think again before pushing ahead with this new charge. Several AccountingWEB members advocated abolising child benefit all together, while David Heaton suggested it could be simplified by limiting the existing system to the first two or three children, as used to be the case.

However Benneyworth argued: “The obvious solution is to say that if it is to be a means-tested benefit in the future, then it becomes part of the child tax credit system. Because that is means tested, so it's just subsumed within tax credits rather than remaining a separate benefit. That's politically sensitive, because at the moment it is allegedly available to all, but once it's means tested the only sensible thing to do is to put it with everything else that is means tested.”

She also pledged that if the government did not relent, she would “spend a day chained to the railings outside the House of Parliament” to drive home the point.

She added: “My real concern is the damage this is going to do to the integrity of the tax system. It's not so much about whether it should or shouldn't be done, I think taxpayers will feel it is unfair because somebody is going to pay tax on some money they've never had because their partner had it, and it also means you lose confidentiality. I think there's huge damage to the integrity of the tax system.”

Further reading:

HMRC: Child Benefit: Income Tax Charge for Those on Higher Incomes

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Wild Billy Hickok
By Wild Billy
28th Apr 2012 13:07

Where George got it wrong...
... was not sticking to his guns on the original proposal that any higher rate taxpayer would not receive child benefit any longer. We moan, oh how we moan, and this does seem unworkable to me too but where were we when the original proposal was being criticised and the demands from others to listen and modify the proposal?

The uncomfortable truth is the "profession can rip apart" any proposal but it is rather less good at saying when it agrees with something or standing up for the Government when it should.

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By justsotax
30th Apr 2012 09:51

Would agree with Rebecca, include it in

the tax credit claim - at least then it would not have taken much tweaking to incorporate.  Better still if people chose not to claim then the government would be better off (or at least the cost of the 'tweak' may be covered by the underclaiming of the benefit.)

 

More work for us though....shouldn't complain really......

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By pauljohnston
30th Apr 2012 12:20

So whats the tax saving?

Out of an estimated taxtake of £592bn for 2012-13.  The child benefit savings are estimated at £2.2bn.  Was it worth the hassle George?

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By Mallock
30th Apr 2012 14:46

This is a real problem

If Child Benefit is added to the Tax Credit system, it may take some of the confidentiality and practical problems out of the equation but it is still going to take Child Benefit away from a large number of needy families.

The problem with the Chancellor's initial proposals was that a family who were £1 below the higher rate threshold received Child Benefit in full whereas one with £1 more that the higher rate threshold lost the lot - for a family on the cusp of higher rate tax with only one earner, the loss of anything from just over £1,000 to an average of around £1,800 net p.a. is a serious amount of money. The changes proposed in the budget addressed some issues but as has been noted above created others.

Personally I think Child Benefit should stay for everyone but higher rate tax should be put up by whatever percentage is necessary to make it a fully costed benefit within higher rate tax payers. I would have thought somewhere around 3% would be enough. In this way all higher rate taxpayers share the cost, there are no expensive procedures to implement and no new cliff edges or cliff faces in the tax system.

Perhaps this would not be popular but I don't see why families should face a tax burden greater than others in an attempt to plug the budget deficit. We all benefit from children coming through to take jobs and be the new generation of taxpayers.

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By justsotax
30th Apr 2012 17:00

Perhaps we should just make it a taxable benefit...?

- not perfect as there would be some planning in regarding to the lowest earner claiming the benefit/allowance - but at least that way it would recover something....but there will always be an issue.....if you haven't got kids you don't get it.....of course we also assume that the child will become a taxpayer of tomorrow.....but that is no guarantee.....

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By Wiganer Elaine
30th Apr 2012 17:11

Just a thought

In a heavily over-populated country, not to mention the whole planet in general, maybe its time governments simply stopped paying people to have children??

 

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By pauljohnston
30th Apr 2012 17:34

@Elaine

I agree too but feel it should be restricted to the first two births (this covers twins on first occassion or a single child followed by twins).  If this started with births after 1 April 2013.  THe cost will fall as each year a chunck of young people attain 18 years and the benefit stops at that point for them.

I dont think that taxing or withdrawing the benefit will help.  . 

lt will just mean that longerterm lower income families will have more children and those paying higher rate taxes, less.

When I was born in 1956 no benefit was paid for the first child but this was to increase the population.  NOw we need the poulation to reduce.

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By dwgw
01st May 2012 11:19

If we need the population to reduce ...

... we'd probably do better to have fewer old people around.  We've already got huge structural issues arising from an aging population, inadequate pensions, inadequate care provision, ever-growing healthcare costs etc.  How would Elaine, Paul and the other Malthusians suggest that reducing the numbers of children might address these problems?  A shrinking younger working population surely won't help.

The government's proposals are unworkable.  Either they haven't been thought through at all or, even worse, they have but ministerial incompetence has blinded them to the consequences.  Doesn't inspire confidence either way.  

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By David Kirk
01st May 2012 12:23

Lawyers
Has anyone asked any matrimonial lawyers what they think of the Revenue telling their clients' exes what their income is? I haven't, but I imagine that their remarks will generally be just about unprintable.

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By Wiganer Elaine
01st May 2012 13:58

Look to the future

A difficult choice is a difficult choice and you can't please all of the people all of the time, to paraphrase an old saying.

Instead of trying to close down a vital area of discussion, namely over-population and its far reaching consequences for the whole of mankind, not just the UK, with a knee-jerk comment which implies that there is an easy solution to this issue - ie get rid of the "old" people - people seriously need to consider what is at stake here.

The argument that you need to maintain and/or increase population levels to support the growing numbers of the ageing population is a never ending cycle that will lead to an ever increasing population and will not do anything at all to prevent economic and social disaster in the long term.

The answer to reducing the population long term is to lower the numbers being born. Unfortunately, this will not provide a quick result for the "instant gratification" generation but means that eventually as people die naturally the population will decrease. In the short term we are in for a long, hard bumpy ride!

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By dwgw
02nd May 2012 13:21

I am looking to the future!

Wiganer Elaine wrote:

Instead of trying to close down a vital area of discussion, namely over-population and its far reaching consequences for the whole of mankind, not just the UK, with a knee-jerk comment which implies that there is an easy solution to this issue - ie get rid of the "old" people - people seriously need to consider what is at stake here.

The argument that you need to maintain and/or increase population levels to support the growing numbers of the ageing population is a never ending cycle that will lead to an ever increasing population and will not do anything at all to prevent economic and social disaster in the long term.

It certainly wasn't a knee-jerk comment; I was being facetious in order to make a serious point.  The last thing I meant to imply is that the solution was easy; I was reacting to what I took to be your simplistic view that reducing the birth rate solves the problems of a perceived over-population.      

There are very serious consequences for western societies reducing the proportion of young people in their populations.  The equation isn't that simple and single countries can't expect unilateral measures to be effective irrespective of developments elsewhere.  We've barely begun to experience the pensions/health care/social care crisis that lies not too many years ahead.  If we reduce our birth rate, how will we be able to support even the most basic provision?  Increased taxation?  Withdrawal of care for old people?  Good luck getting either of those through.  Greater immigration could alleviate the problems but that brings its own political and social difficulties.

Developing world populations tend to reduce as people move away from basic subsistence.  Current economic trends show growth shifting from the developed world to Asia, Africa and Latin America.  That may be painful for us here economically but, globally, it's probably a good thing.  Longer term projections don't indicate that we have an ever-rising UK population to worry about.  I'd suggest that simplistic "reduce numbers of children" solutions aren't required in the UK and would actually be more likely to damage our society and economy in the medium and long term.          

 

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By pauljohnston
01st May 2012 15:48

@dwgw

I understand that the ratio of retired people to those working starts falling in 2050, 38 years time so Elaine and my suggestion are very workable. A reduced population would make the scarcity of housing less of a problem and reduce the preasure to concrete over parts of south of England and reduce our comsumption of all most everything.

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