Agent alert - getting your clients ready for online VAT

The build up to mandatory online filing of VAT returns has started. HMRC will be writing to all affected businesses in the next month or so to inform them about the changes.
For VAT periods starting on or after 1 April 2010, all businesses with annual turnover of £100,000 or more will be required to file their VAT returns online and pay their VAT electronically. Smaller businesses will retain the right to file on paper, but this will be reviewed again in the run up to 2012 – the date at which HMRC services should be online based.
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I think PDF is safer
I'm not a real techie, but I thought that PDF would be more popular as it is less risky. Then you can copy and paste into Word. But I'll ask "them as know" to check.
VAT onslime is sooooo hard , that's y
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BUT BUT
The REASON so few file online is because it is suuuuuch a hard task doing all the registering – compare it to setting up Corp Tax onslime which only needs CT ref, and Co. number.
Try asking any VAT officer about this, they all know WHY no one is registering. I have managed three so far, and each time I nearly died…..
Make VAT registering onslime the same and I will put 100 cos. on within a week !
format - also another possible letter
the better format would have been plain 'txt' and then we cna do whatever etc....
anyway the letter is not much use - too much stuffy waffle. most clients don't care 2 figs of tuppny straw about all this - they just want their accountants to fix it all (for free)
what it should say is:-
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The government in their infinite wisdom, want us all to join the online community for all statutory communications. This now includes VAT returns. In future this has to be done online unless you are a business with sales less than £100k pa. The deadline for registering is………..
Sadly the collateral damage is that the ‘customers’ (taxpayers) have to jump through a million teeedious hoops to register for filing VAT.
We as your loyal/trusty/servile advisors will do all the grunt for you, but we need you to sign here………………../email us your consent to a (modest) fee of £100 for doing the extra work for you. You evade this by doing it yourself - you may suffer from Alopecia before completing this successfully.
We warn you in advance that our usual friendly advice service does not include helping you with this unless you agree the fee first – if you do it, we will only charge £95 for the telephone support – we promise not to laugh at the sound of your screaming at the other end of the phone as you register.
Yours ever obediently
Obadiah Scriggens & Co.
Registering clients
Hold on until November and it should be easier. I'll look at it as soon as it is up and report back, but it should be as easy as CT or any other tax by then....
We are now in November
I have not had the opportunity to register any clients for VAT this month.
It is now as easy as CT registration?
Now all we need is an electronic 64-8 as for SA and life will become easier.
Not that hard
It's not too bad, I do our VAT clients and the only issue is finding the original VAT registration date when the client's (or rest of my firm) doesn't have the original certificate to hand.
It's time consuming to get them set up, but once it's done, it's simplicity itself to do their returns and detail changes, I'm all one for online methods over annoying cheque signing and paper.
The question I have is though, when it says newly registered businesses from 1 April 2010, is that date refering to the date of registration (say a company voluntarily registers from 1 April) or the date of application?
Slowly but surely I'm getting our clients in for online VAT, despite the odd old person moaning that he can't deal with computers and isn't willing to pay us £25 a quarter admin fee to sort it out for him. I mean £25 a quarter, honestly! But the majority see the light.




Good idea - but
A Word document would have made it a little easier