Success of low cost net PCs brings another reprieve for Windows XP

Microsoft's Windows XP is becoming the software equivalent of a B-movie zombie - the operating system that wouldn't die.

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A 5 year old rant from Bill Gates ....

Anonymous | | Permalink

Has anything really moved forward with M$?

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp

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Aware of the Eee's Linux OS - and so is Microsoft

John Stokdyk | | Permalink

Martin,

I haven't got a blind spot about Linux - Aweb runs on it and we have covered it on Aweb for many, many years (though it's still very much a minority interest for finance applications). Simon Hurst and I have reported on the Eee's progress since last year and are aware that it was a huge success with Linux pre-installed.

Microsoft was obviously aware of that fact too, which would explain why it has gone out of its way to keep XP (Home Edition) alive - so that it can grab a piece of this sector. What I meant to indicate was that Asus would be unlikely to launch an XP version of its machine in April if it knew that the operating system was being retired at the end of June.

Sorry if the way the article was worded gave you a different impression.

John Stokdyk
Technology editor
AccountingWEB.co.uk

Agreed

Martyn.Shiner | | Permalink

John,

Thanks for the clarification.

I'm aware Aweb runs on Linux - check out my user number and you'll see I've been around a long time (I think I received the first copy of the prudent surfer back in '96, or was it '97).

I think finance professionals generally do have a blind spot where Linux and open source is concerned and feel they should be made more aware of the possibilities (and pitfalls) of a world without microsoft software - perhaps Aweb could (should?) take the lead here.

There are choices, as the explosive growth in Netbook sales have demonstrated.

Martyn

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Enough plot twists to run for years...

John Stokdyk | | Permalink

Kevin, the deeper you dig into the issues, the more complicated they get - which illustrates the great mysteries of Microsoft marketing.

On the face of it the nettop XP announcement is perfectly clear - Microsoft will require PC makers to stop preloading Windows XP on new machines after June 30, 2008, unless they are building ultra low cost PCs that can't cope with Vista.

But with Vista taking a pummelling and enterprise customers refusing to budge from XP, Microsoft is spinning itself into a double helix around the issue of "downgrade" rights. M3 Sweatt, the chief of staff of the Windows Core Operating System Division recently attempted to clarify the company's policy in a blog posting that explained that "downgrade rights" have existed for OEM versions of Windows since 2001. That means that Vista Business and Windows Vista Ultimate licences supplied through most PC manufacturers can be downgraded to XP.

Microsoft will continue to provide free support for XP until April 2009. Extended support for which users have to pay will continue until 2014.

There are copious links in Sweatt's blog to reference materials and further discussions on the subject - if you are able to discerne any more illuminating insights from the material, do come back and let us know... I've got to go off and complete a piece on analytical software as a service, where mercifully such licence complications no longer apply (for now, at least).

John Stokdyk
Technology editor
AccountingWEB.co.uk

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Does this apply to PCs as well as notebooks?

kevinringer | | Permalink

John, could you clarify whether the XP extension is for notebooks only, or will the listed manufacturers be able to put it on PCs as well.

XP Based (Not Vista) - Windows Embedded Standard 2009

JC | | Permalink

Windows Embedded Standard 2009, is based on Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)

Windows Embedded Standard 2009 Community Technology Preview -
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/standardlaunch/default.mspx

Does this mean that terminating XP is complete nonsense?

Sorry?

Martyn.Shiner | | Permalink

John,

What do you mean when you say

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Neither Asus which has shipped more than a million devices running Linux, nor Acer would have been able to announce their new low cost machines without being confident that Microsoft would continue to support the operating system.
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Asus launched on Linux!!!!!! And some of the others will too (MSI, Dell, I think).

And anyway the version of XP being used is XP home - which is no good if you want to use a netbook to connect to a domain in ,say, a business environment.

The Linux versions have no such problems and the user environment is good, if not better than Windows as they are optimised for these machines. Ubuntu remix will improve things further: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/netbook-remix
http://www.engadget.com/photos/canonical-makes-ubuntu-netbook-remix-official-at-computex/836966/

Oh, and there is the thorny issue that the XP machines either cost more, or have smaller drives to account for the microsoft tax.

You don't mention any of the issues which makes me wonder... do the AWeb editors have a blind spot on Linux?

Martyn