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2008 SA 103

2008 SA 103

What blithering idiot decided to separate the Turnover on page SEF 1, Expenses on page 2 and Net Profit boxes on page 3?

Can anyone hazard a guess why this was thought to be a good idea?

Sorry if this has already been moaned about.

HMRC? When will you be dealing with the perpertrator of this nonsense and can we see the re-design for 2009, please?
Don Quixote

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By Anonymous
21st Oct 2008 13:26

crossing fingers
Ty, Barry. Is there any point crossing my fingers for version.5?

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20th Oct 2008 12:26

Unlikely to be any different for 2009

The draft returns for 2009 have been available for some time and the SA103 is not significantly diferent to 2008.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa_drafts/sa103f_2009_v0_04.pdf

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By Anonymous
20th Oct 2008 11:34

Just spoken to HMRC Officer
regarding the self employment pages and was told that "they are changing it back next year".

I'm not rejoicing just yet, in case it's chinese whispers.

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By Anonymous
16th Oct 2008 16:54

Thats right Simon and Doug
the only sense this makes if if HMRC are trying to make it more difficult to file on paper. Therefore the whole idiotic design depends on their online software being usable. If it isn't then the paper return is not fit for the purpose, either.

Again on SEF 3, boxes 58, 59 and 60 should be placed before Cap All's, then perhaps box 61 wouldn't be mixing up Cap All's with none-trading income, of all things.

SloMo. Great posting :)

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16th Oct 2008 11:12

Rubbish
And this years HMRC on-line filed SA Return design is slow, clunky, crashes, unhelpful - in fact completely rubbish! Just when they'd managed to get it working more-or-less okay last year.

Goodness knows how the system will cope in January if it's falling apart now!

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16th Oct 2008 10:04

AND
switched the columns over (allowed / disallowed)
Grrrrr... Keep entering it wrong.

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By Anonymous
16th Oct 2008 05:11

dya mind Andy. I'm trying to rant, here!
re TR 5, Sir Humphrey couldn't have done any better at complicating a simple coding-out question. Do they not want taxpayers to file on time? Is this all helping them to 'get their tax right'?

PS Our software was ready on April 6th.

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15th Oct 2008 21:42

Seems to be a whole new approach from HMRC ....
Where there is clarity, sow confusion.
Where there is certainty, use call centres.
Where there is urgency, don't reply.
Where is simplicity, introduce new procedures.

They give customer service a whole new meaning!

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By pawncob
15th Oct 2008 17:33

I'm mad as hell.

The 2008 tax return is the worst piece of design I've seen in years.
The clarity of the 2007 item has been completely lost, there is no logic to the layout and the notes are a farce!
All the information helpfully provided with the 2007 return has been deleted. (here's a tip, keep your 2007 Guide because the 2008 Guide doesn't list any of the useful info., so it's lost for ever.)
No doubt this rewrite cost a fortune.
Well, shout it from the rooftops, It's CRAP.

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15th Oct 2008 17:08

Another redesign?
Does that mean we will have to wait until July to get tax software that works properly?

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