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2018/19 SATR not filed - no tax loss

can we appeal the late filing penalty?

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Client income for 2018/19 was PAYE & <£1k trading income. I thought she wasn't going to register as below the trading limit and we'd do SA from 2019/20, but she's just received a late filing penalty and apparently had registered in 2018/19.

Do we have any argument that the penalty should be revoked or that no return was due as there was no tax loss?

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By SXGuy
09th Mar 2020 11:46

Don't think you can argue the no return due since HMRC may have issued a notice to file, so return would have been due even if there would be no info to include.

Same for no tax loss.

Others may have a different opinion, but you could try client registered in error and ask for that year to be revoked.

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By Rammstein1
09th Mar 2020 11:55

Others may have a different opinion, but you could try client registered in error and ask for that year to be revoked.

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I got one cancelled last week using that very arguement.

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By Duggimon
09th Mar 2020 11:58

There's no chance of having the penalty overturned, but a reasonable hope of having the return withdrawn, that's the approach I'd use.

I think, though I'm not certain, that the ADL can do that, you could try calling them.

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
09th Mar 2020 12:39

Thanks - will try ADL this afternoon.

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By kenny achampong
10th Mar 2020 14:05

I thought they agreed to every penalty appeal a year or two ago, they didnt have the staff to read/reply to the appeals and they said as such. And I just had a similar one for £1,600 re 2017-18 overturned last week.

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
09th Mar 2020 19:37

ADL have said it we put it in writing, they will change the s/e start date from Jan 19 to April 19, so to take it out of 18/19 filing requirements.

Job done

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By Chris.Mann
09th Mar 2020 22:35

As with most communications with HMRC, it really does depend who you speak to.

I had a fortunate experience, last week, with a similar scenario. On another day,who knows?

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By Tax Dragon
10th Mar 2020 06:47

We had someone that self registered early, got penalties and the penalties were cancelled on a phone call. You might have more of issue though if the trading allowance is a claim. From memory I think it's automatic. Worth the call anyway.

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
10th Mar 2020 08:50

HMRC webchat said “yeah, fine, no problem, just put it in a letter and we’ll change the start of s/e to 2019/20”.

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