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A Level question

A Level question

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Please help my niece, below:

Given that x^2tany=9

Show that dy/dx=-18/x^4+81

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By lionofludesch
01st May 2021 18:05

Well, I can tell her that the debit is the side nearest the window, if that helps.

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By Paul Crowley
01st May 2021 18:09

Definitely a level question if both sides are equal

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By SXGuy
01st May 2021 18:26

42

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By Paul Crowley
01st May 2021 18:28

Is there a fake tan in the top equation?

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By An_a
01st May 2021 19:56

No

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By frankfx
01st May 2021 18:37

https://youtu.be/AXuRRxgAz0I

Start there.

You may derive some solace, at a tangible level.

Share your solution in the light of the above.

Show your workings, to gain brownie points.

Ignore secants, cosines.

Answer by return please.

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By Hugo Fair
01st May 2021 19:55

This site never ceases to amaze me ... even if possibly unintentionally.
It's over 50 years since my Maths A level (and indeed subsequent S level), but I really enjoyed that YouTube clip (not a phrase readily enunciated by me)!
Thanks.

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By An_a
01st May 2021 19:58

Thanks for the help, she found the derivative but shes not quite sure how to get rid of the trigonometric values to just have integers.

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By Matrix
01st May 2021 19:31

I didn’t get that exactly unless you are missing an x but it has been 30 years since A level maths.

tany=9x^-2
sec^2y=1+tan^2y
sec^2y=1+81x^-4
sec^2ydy/dx=-18x^-3
dy/dx=-18x^-3/((1+81x^-4)=-18x/(x^4+81)

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By An_a
01st May 2021 20:00

No thats the exact question. Thank you for the workigs out you added

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By Hugo Fair
01st May 2021 20:10

Purely out of curiosity (and given the sensitivity of some members of this site on the topic) ...
* Why did you initially post anonymously?
* Why are you now happy to break that anonymity?

Basically, were those both conscious decisions? Or, despite what we're told, did you find a way to make that initial selection accidently? I'm really interested.

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By An_a
01st May 2021 20:42

Any idea about what I asked !

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By lionofludesch
01st May 2021 21:13

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Any idea about what I asked !

Oh it was you, was it?

It may surprise you but accountants don't need much arithmetic beyond add, take away, timesing and sharing. Newtonian calculus isn't part of our day to day life.

Hence the light hearted good natured chaffing in the replies.

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By An_a
01st May 2021 21:24

Is about my niece, dont you get it?
If you dont know, please dont bla bla

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By lionofludesch
01st May 2021 21:56

Quote:

Is about my niece, dont you get it?
If you dont know, please dont bla bla

You're asking in the wrong place.

Why are you asking accountants about differential calculus?

Try www.differential calculus.net

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By An_a
02nd May 2021 06:27

Thank you

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By Hugo Fair
01st May 2021 21:42

Plenty, but you'd already received some good assistance - which considering that the OP was wholly irrelevant to accounting matters I think was extremely kind of the responders.
Why are you behaving in quite the opposite manner, when a perfectly polite (and relevant) question is asked of you?
[I went to great pains to make it clear that I was honestly interested in the facts and not having a dig at you ... which frankly I'm now beginning to regret].

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By Hugh Simpson
02nd May 2021 11:02

There must be a mathematical equation for this ...

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By Hugo Fair
02nd May 2021 11:14

Well it's a bit simplistic, but 'Regret (decision theory)' states that:
"when making decisions under uncertainty—should information about the best course of action arrive after taking a fixed decision—the human emotional response of regret is often experienced, and can be measured as the value of difference between a made decision and the optimal decision."
There's always an equation of some sort (more truly often a formula) for every situation! : -)

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By Wilson Philips
01st May 2021 19:05

dx/dy = -18/x^4+81

There, I’ve shown you.

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By An_a
02nd May 2021 06:25

Thank you for your help and info, my niece is still not satisfied but having looked everywhere we now think something is wrong with the question.
My exams were long time ago, I dont remember them being so difficult.

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By Matrix
02nd May 2021 07:01

I gave you the proof and you said my answer was right even though you had missed an x in your post.

She needs to go back to her notes or speak to her teacher if she doesn’t understand the proof (which bit as I did it all for her?!).

When I help my daughter with her Maths we start with what she has been taught in class.

There must be other sites which can help, why did you post on here anyway? And please be nice as I spent an hour on this yesterday.

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By Tax Dragon
02nd May 2021 07:15

Matrix has given you.the stepping stones. There's some workings between lines 3 and 4 that Matrix has done offscreen, but your niece should be able to replicate them. Divide one side by tany and the other by tany expressed as a function of x (as given in the question).

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By Tax Dragon
02nd May 2021 07:25

Actually that's an alternative proof.

Matrix's (I now realise) is far simpler - just differentiate the original equation wrt x.

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By paulhammett
02nd May 2021 18:56

All double dutch to me.

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