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Does anyone here know whether it will be possible for me to use older versions of the software once I stop my sub? Sage sales people say I can, but they've been wrong in the past so I can't rely on them.

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By WhichTyler
31st Jan 2018 20:18

Whereas accountingweb advice has 100% reliability?

I'd suggest that you dump all the data into a series of spreadsheets that you can access without the software. You may not need them, but it's a good backstop if Sage stops working.

Do you think you will need to access it regularly, or is it a 'just in case'?

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By scalloway
31st Jan 2018 20:26

I second doing downloads of the data. PDFs will retain the integrity of the data.

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By D V Fields
31st Jan 2018 21:01

Connect via an ODBC connection and you can download the data to Excel or a database ( probably even after expiry ) all the tables you want.
Incidentally if you are saying goodbye to SAGE who are you saying hello too?
Whilst I am not the biggest fan of SAGE it serves a purpose; and when push comes to shove comparing with Xero, Quickbooks and others it appears to come out better particularly if you have project costing needs. Sadly this isn't a endorsement of SAGE rather .....

I want a replacement for SAGE but it needs to live up to expectations not hype. Interested in your views.
Thanks Dave

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By Moonbeam
01st Feb 2018 12:58

I will be directing all new clients to Xero from now on, and if they need me to update their Sage then I'll need to login to their computer to do that.
Two of my current Sage clients are closing down shortly. The other one is likely to retire soon.

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By D V Fields
02nd Feb 2018 21:46

Moonbeam wrote:

I will be directing all new clients to Xero from now on, and if they need me to update their Sage then I'll need to login to their computer to do that.
Two of my current Sage clients are closing down shortly. The other one is likely to retire soon.


Presumably your clients do not need project costing? Do you know what level of transactions if exceeded will cause serious delays in processing? Hopefully your clients have just a few transactions not to be an issue! But if they do - have you considered this in your advice? If they leave after a few years do you know how they access their historic data?

If you are sure it's the best solution for your clients then go for it. I am yet to be convinced.

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By Moonbeam
31st Jan 2018 21:19

Thanks All - I was going to run the spreadsheet option for my 3 remaining live companies anyway before ceasing the subscription to be on the safe side.
It would be very helpful to know if I could still use the older versions of Sage once I cease. Where is John the Sage Guru?

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By johndon68
01st Feb 2018 13:23

Moonbeam wrote:

It would be very helpful to know if I could still use the older versions of Sage once I cease. Where is John the Sage Guru?

Here I am, it's been a while since I logged in :)

As long as the licences for the software are perpetual (which all of them were prior to v21) then you will have no problems accessing the program or the data.

With v21 and above, if the software is on a monthly rather than perpetual licence then you will probably find that you can't access the program.

I've not tried using ODBC on a set of data where the licence has expired but I'd be surprised if the ODBC driver checked the licence so you'd likely still be able to extract the data.

John

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By Moonbeam
01st Feb 2018 16:23

Thank goodness I waited to hear from you John!!! Thank you for your answer. I reconstituted 3 lots of Sage companies backwards onto v23 last weekend, and from your reply that's no good.
So I need to set them up on v20 to be safe and then of course there could be windows conflicts.
I'm now reviewing my decision..

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By johndon68
01st Feb 2018 16:41

It does depend on the licence for each individual install - just because it is v23 it doesn't automatically mean that it is on a monthly licence, perpetual licences were still available.

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By chewmac
01st Feb 2018 08:26

I can confirm that once your subscription stops you’ll still be able to use Sage desktop programs forever. So if it’s too much trouble to export everything you’ll be fine as long as Sage remain some compatible with windows

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By Paul Scholes
01st Feb 2018 12:36

Agree with chewmac - one of my clients did this with an earlier version.

Congratulations Moonbeam it's the software equivalent of getting rid of a diesel car?

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By Glenn Martin
01st Feb 2018 16:32

Diesel car have got more legs than Sage line 50

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By Alex_T
13th Feb 2018 16:47

I couldn't have said it better myself Paul Scholes. Well done Moonbeam! Best of luck!

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By Mr_awol
02nd Feb 2018 09:09

Downside of retaining the 'old' software to read the old data is that you may replace your computer (voluntarily or otherwise) so make sure you've downloaded and retained the install pack etc and kept any licence codes you might need.

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By Moonbeam
02nd Feb 2018 22:50

Thank you to everyone - I couldn't have a better board of directors! I've very reluctantly accepted that it's going to be too difficult to leave Sage at present, and I will have to slog on for the time being. There are still plenty of prospects using Sage so I just need to find more of them to share my costs to.

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