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ACCA Practising Certificate - problems getting it!

Has anyone experienced the same? Should I give up?

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I qualified with ACCA in 1998 and have worked part time since then.  I suspended my membership for personal reasons in 2013 and was reinstated as a member in Oct 18, after being told by ACCA that I can use any experience gained retrospectively in my application for a practising certificate.

I am due to take over a small practice on 1st June which ideally would have been under an ACCA PC as it is currently an ACCA practice.  

I submitted my PC application and experience to ACCA in March to find out yesterday that I cannot use my recent experience as it has to cover 2 straight years (so from October 18 - October 20).  From Monday I won't have any ACCA supervision as I will be running the new practice using my AAT PC so this will not be accepted by ACCA.  ACCA have said they will only accept a retrospective application covering 2 straight years work (otherwise it is unfair to other applicants) - as I was part time this will have to cover 2009 - 2013.  I can get this information together but it seems ridiculous to me. How can work experience from 11 years ago be more relevant than what I have done recently?

Has anyone else experienced this and is there an appeals process?  I am seriously considering just leaving them as I can do everything I need to under my AAT PC - this is more for continuity with the clients.

Any advice would be appreciated.  I am off now to trawl through old timesheets!

 

 

 

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By Southwestbeancounter
28th May 2020 14:28

I wasn't in your position but just renewing my annual practising certificate last year was an absolute nightmare!

I did it online on 18th November 2019, really early for me as they had taken an age to do it in the past, and I had to chase them for my annual certificate itself and also for an invoice so I could pay the bill as I like it all to be 'done and dusted' before the due date of 31 December, especially when I had applied online some 6 weeks earlier.

I eventually got it sorted on 14th January 2020 and received my practising certificate via email.

I presume this is where you are emailing anyway but when I logged onto my account I got this message:

"COVID-19

Due to the current Coronavirus impact in the UK, we are following Government advice on delay measures, and as such have invoked home working. This means our UK phone lines are temporarily closed however we will be managing and responding to email enquiries therefore please email us on [email protected] where we will respond as soon as possible. We apologise for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience during this time"

Good luck!

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By busacrun
28th May 2020 14:39

I've felt that there has been a consitent pattern with ACCA over the last few years - costs go up, service and value for money go down

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By Southwestbeancounter
28th May 2020 15:14

Yes, I sadly have to agree.

With all the Covid-19 stuff, rarely have ACCA been punctual with their updates, I am instead relying on various well known accountancy firms, AW (obviously!) and the ICAEW to keep my knowledge up-to-date.

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By spilly
28th May 2020 15:27

ACCA has always been a bit rubbish once you get past the student phase but it seems to have got worse over the last 3 years.
Even their newsletters are full of links to articles written on other accounting body websites. Too idle to write their own, or too tight to pay someone?

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By Southwestbeancounter
28th May 2020 17:52

They shouldn't be too tight with what we pay them each year!

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By rjm
28th May 2020 18:06

Hi Anon
I had a similar situation when I first applied for a PC in about 2008. I cannot remember the details (and by an odd coincidence I shredded the papers only a couple of weeks ago) but from memory...... I had worked for myself in mergers and acquisitions from 1993 to 2008. It involved a great deal of financial analysis and due diligence exercises in 70 or more deals over that period. ACCA would accept none of that experience for my PC - because I didn't have a boss who could verify my experience if memory serves me correctly. However, they would accept my experience as FD in various commercial businesses between 1985 and 1993. I tracked down my managing directors from that period who wrote to ACCA confirming that the work I had claimed on my application was genuine. And then I sent it off - some 15 to 22 years after I'd gained that experience ! I did speak to the relevant ACCA department about the absurdity of the situation and they suggested that I wait and see the outcome. That outcome was a PC. I came away very irritated with the process and a very strong feeling that the department that made the decision simply needed to tick the boxes including the box that asked if the claimed experience had been verified.
My advice is therefore to help them tick the box and hide your irritation.
Like you, I thought about going with the AAT. It became my back up plan. I didn't need it but I suspect that had I gone down that route I would not have been disadvantaged.

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By spilly
28th May 2020 20:40

I once worked at a practice where the partners had a policy of refusing to sign off any work experience of staff towards a PC.
Their reasoning was that only one partner per practice needed a PC so they saved money, plus it discouraged staff from leaving to set up on their own and potentially taking clients with them.
The ACCA PC is all about supervisory sign-offs, nothing about actual work and experience.

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By DJKL
28th May 2020 21:50

Not so hot if the partner with the PC falls under a bus.

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By spilly
29th May 2020 06:44

By the end of my time there I would have quite happily pushed him under the bus myself. He made Scrooge look generous.

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By DJKL
29th May 2020 09:28

Scrooge was very misunderstood- given his rejection in childhood his initial attitude to the rest of mankind is perfectly understandable, it is the same sort of behaviour often manifesting itself in those of our MPs who were cast out of their family homes at an early age.

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By Matrix
28th May 2020 20:49

Look at the ICAEW pathways to membership route. Maybe you could then get a practicing certificate. I don’t know for sure, I just know that I didn’t have to go through these hoops to get a PC.

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By sadler14
02nd Jun 2020 10:03

Been a member of the ACCA for over 25 years. If I had my time again I wouldn't bother with them.

They have been hopeless in every respect.

So many examples I could write a book, but the one that really sticks out was threatening to expel someone who worked for us ( because the woman they sent to our office didn't understand their own rulebook ). I got involved as our employee was in tears. Heard nothing. 12 months passed and I wrote again to ask what the hell was going on. Got a letter back saying that in this instance they weren't going to persue the matter ! No apology, nothing.

Paid my subscription last December. Sent me an email " we attach your practising certificate". No attachment ! Emailed them, still haven't heard anything.

Glad I'm retiring in a few months. Bet they'll still be asking me for money to keep the letters after my name.

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By kevinringer
03rd Jun 2020 13:27

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Paid my subscription last December. Sent me an email " we attach your practising certificate". No attachment ! Emailed them, still haven't heard anything.

Same happened to me. I also logged into the new My ACCA which had all sorts of warnings about time running out to renew my practising certificate. ACCA were not answering the phone so I emailed them and sent screen shots. I'm still waiting for their reply.
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By rockallj
02nd Jun 2020 13:23

I was both AAT & ACCA many moons ago and in a similar-ish situation to you..

ACCA were inflexible and extremely unhelpful so I resigned my ACCA membership and never applied for a PC with them. I have been a licenced MAAT for 10 years and never regretted resigning from ACCA at all.

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