Accountancy fees

Company insolvency matters

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It is alleged that a firm of accountants is charging  £1,150 per hour dealing with the collapse of a Wolverhampton construction firm . The government has stepped in and it seems the tax payer will be footing the bill.

Can this be good governance and can it be ethical charging such a huge hourly rate.?

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By bernard michael
20th Aug 2018 09:51

Sounds normal for large insolvency firm partner rates

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By lionofludesch
20th Aug 2018 10:05

I'll do it cheaper.

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By bernard michael
20th Aug 2018 10:11

Are you an insolvency practitioner?

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By lionofludesch
20th Aug 2018 10:25

Not yet - but I can learn.

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By legerman
20th Aug 2018 14:32

lionofludesch wrote:

Not yet - but I can learn.

Anything you don't know just ask on insolvencyweb co uk,
just remember to be anonymous.

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By lionofludesch
20th Aug 2018 14:50

Exactly.

That's what the other insolvency firms do.

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By Duggimon
20th Aug 2018 10:33

What if they have fifteen accountants working on it? That's a really cheap rate then.

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By lionofludesch
20th Aug 2018 10:41

Duggimon wrote:

What if they have fifteen accountants working on it? That's a really cheap rate then.

No - it'll be £1150 apiece.

Plus expenses.

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By andy.partridge
20th Aug 2018 11:23

You can guarantee that all public sector bodies have the very best procurement and negotiating teams taxpayers money can buy. It would have been £1,500+ elsewhere.

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By DJKL
20th Aug 2018 12:28

Just had a £20k insolvency fee analysis in this morning re an ex tenant,we are a creditor-though not very much involved.

Before fees the worthy practitioner has raked in £80k of receipts with circa £20k of costs, so after his/her fees it looks like there may be circa £40k to pay to us creditors; Yippee.

Without digging out the exact paperwork (I passed it on for filling) it was a circa £20k fee and 84.5 hours of work from various staff, so an average of circa £236 per hour.

£1,000 seems a tad high, care to post a link to the News story where it was reported?

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By DJKL
21st Aug 2018 14:36

Thanks.

I see it was the specialist re pensions that reached the heady heights rather than those merely dealing with the "Wolverhampton Construction Company"

At these rates they must be getting into the realms of the £100 cup of coffee, hate to think what the banal exchange of greetings will be costing (How's the wife, kids, nice holiday etc)

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By Manchester_man
20th Aug 2018 13:04

DJKL, you're lucky! The last few (small) liquidations I've seen have been along the lines of
Asset realisations £7k
Less: liquidator fees (£7k)
Balance for unsecured creditors £0

I knew I should've trained as an IP ;-)

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By DJKL
20th Aug 2018 14:24

They do tend usually to be more like your figures, however once assets drop far enough there does not tend to be an insolvency process as nobody wants to touch it in the first place.

I did some company liquidation work during my 1980s apprenticeship, two afternoons of preparing six monthly reports. I was given a stack of files and told to merely copy the previous six month report for each one, apparently nothing had happened. I am still none the wiser re the reports, their purpose, or if insolvency work ever actually makes any progress.

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By Matrix
22nd Aug 2018 06:51

Katie Price's liquidators charge £300 an hour.

While companies go bust (excuse the pun) every day, she has a hugely overdrawn Director loan account and has not paid her accountant or HMRC.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04746234

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By DJKL
22nd Aug 2018 10:15

It is certainly a jungle out there, in fact it might be thought to be Insania.

(Having a (then) teenage daughter brought a lot more popular media into my world than was probably advisable)

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