Accountancy Ltd - dormant

Dormant Ltd issued invoices ?!

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I can't understand how  come Accountancy Ltd, a dormant company for ages, issues invoices to customers?!

Can anybody clarify this for me, please?

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By FactChecker
18th May 2024 19:51

"Accountancy Ltd" is a stupid name for a company as it will be easy to confuse with a large number of companies with similar names - but, assuming it's a real company, do you mean Company number 03185572 (which is in process of voluntary strike-off)?

And how sure are you that whatever company is issuing invoices is the same company (that you believe to be dormant - presuming your use of "dormant company" refers to CH, not to HMRC)?

Perhaps most importantly, what is it to you (i.e. in what capacity are you asking and why)? Reading between the lines (possibly wrongly) it sounds like you need a lawyer's view, not an accountant's.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 20:01

The Accountancy is not the actual name of the company. My friend has been using their services for years and received invoices for their services, but they are a dormant company.

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By FactChecker
18th May 2024 20:42

In the absence of more info (as suggested by others not just me - e.g. Company name, Reg co number, VAT number) this is a waste of time as everyone can only hypothesise.

You've also not answered my key question:
" what is it to you (i.e. in what capacity are you asking and why)?"

Talk to a lawyer - or come back with some sensible facts on which we *may* be able to comment. But no details + no context = no answers!

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 21:11

I am asking for help understanding how this works as I am a student in accounting in France.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 21:15

Finance

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 21:22

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By FactChecker
18th May 2024 21:24

I'm getting more confused with every response you make.

Are you a student and this is a made-up company (as in homework)? In which case speak to your tutor.
Or are you a student who trying to assist/advise your friend? In which case don't, you're not qualified to do so.

As has already been said ... there's much too little detail (let alone background context) for any sensible comments on a public forum; and you (or your friend) need to decide what it is that you're trying to achieve so that you can focus on what, if anything, might be an effective next step.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 21:55

It is not made up. It is a real company. I am a real person, and my friend as well. Yes, I am not fully qualified yet; I just tried to find an answer.

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 21:20

England and Wales company law and the use of trading names may be different to the French rules
Scotland has different law to England and Wales, so first you need to identify the country.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 21:22

Spelling mistake, Sorry. I mean Finance

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 21:29

Predictive text?

See my 21.14 comment in reply to Matrix

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By 356B
18th May 2024 19:51

It's being struck.
How do you know it's issuing invoices?

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 20:01

The Accountancy is not the actual name of the company. My friend has been using their services for years and received invoices for their services, but they are a dormant | company.

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By Ruddles
18th May 2024 20:08

There are a number of possible explanations. Without any further information (eg company number) I’m not going to hazard a guess.

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By Matrix
18th May 2024 20:10

Is there a VAT number?

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 20:11

Yes, Active

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 20:18

Have you checked the VAT number
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-vat-number
Does the company name agree?

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 20:28

Yes. Matching
In the second year of registration, the company filed for dormant, and it is currently dormant.

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By Matrix
18th May 2024 20:57

Are they trading as Pandle now? Look up the company number. The Accountancy Partnership may be a trading name if it is this firm.

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 21:14

Agree
My invoices have a heading that is slightly different to the company name.
It could be just a trading name, badly done because it uses the word limited, and does not comply with letterhead rules.
OP needs to see letterheads and invoices and read all the small writing at the bottom.
Company name regd office and statement about directors.
The company could easily be a name protection thing.

My guess is that we are talking about a franchise.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 21:41

Thank you for your answer. All the details in the invoice match the company's details in the company house. I can’t share the details as I think they are confidential.
I just tried to figure out how the dormant company can issue invoices.

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By Ruddles
18th May 2024 21:47

There is nothing confidential about information published at Companies House

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 21:55

Agree
Companies House items that can be read on the website are in the public domain.
OP
No idea how far you are in your studies, but company law really should be part of the curriculum.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 22:14

Yes. When I say confidential, I mean I can't share details about the company without a concert given by my friend.
Anyway, thank you very much for all your reply and time.

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By Matrix
18th May 2024 22:36

You are correct to be concerned and I don’t think you have to be an expert in Company Law to realise it sounds dodgy. Maybe others will have more thoughts on what your friend can do.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 22:44

I appreciate your answer. Thank you!

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By Paul Crowley
18th May 2024 22:46

At least the input VAT should not be a problem if a record of the VAT number check is retained.

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By FactChecker
18th May 2024 23:32

"sounds dodgy" - indisputably (subject to all the unexplored points about confusion over registered vs t/a names etc).

But "more thoughts on what your friend can do"?
How is anyone meant to have thoughts on that if we've not been told what the friend is trying to do or has specific concerns about?

Paul (tongue-in-cheek or otherwise) has pointed out that there should be no danger in the bookkeeping aspect of recording input VAT ... but the focus may be on 'do I have to pay this invoice if the company is dormant?' or 'to whom do I report what appears to be fraud?' or 'is there any point in taking them to court if they say they're dormant?' or almost any question under the sun.

A simple, but probably unhelpful, answer to the question as asked:
Q - "I can't understand how come Accountancy Ltd, a dormant company for ages, issues invoices to customers?! Can anybody clarify this for me, please?"
A - a dormant company isn't dead, so can be brought into active operation any time.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
18th May 2024 23:52

It makes sense. Thank you

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By jcace
18th May 2024 20:38

Enlighten us.... what is the VAT Number?... and company registration number?

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By Leywood
18th May 2024 23:32

Just get your friend to ask his Accountant

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By Dougscott
18th May 2024 23:40

How can your friend be the customer of a dormant company in the first place?

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By SXGuy
20th May 2024 08:22

Is the name they place on the invoice the dormant ltd company name? And I mean the word ltd or limited on the end?

Some people reg a ltd Co name and leave it dormant as they believe it protects the name from being used however they may operate as self employed or something else.

You need to know exactly who is invoicing you.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
20th May 2024 09:14

Yes, Same Ltd name, company number, VAT

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By bernard michael
20th May 2024 09:20

Is the company number on the invoices the same as the one you claim is "dormant" ??

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By Valentina Bozhilova
20th May 2024 09:25

Yes. All details match .

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By Ruddles
20th May 2024 09:29

In which case either the company's accounts are wrong or the invoice details are wrong (or both are wrong). No-one here is going to be able to tell you which, or why.

And you're not helping yourself by refusing to disclose publicly available, non-confidential, information.

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By Valentina Bozhilova
20th May 2024 09:58

Yes, I completely understand that. Thank you!

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