Alternatives to IRIS Elements Tax and Accounts

Taxfiler is being replaced by IRIS Elements Tax and Accounts, what are the viable alternatives?

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We have been using Taxfiler for our filing requirements for accounts, corporation tax, vat and self assessment as well as r&d filing through the ct600.  Now that Taxfiler is being phased out I was wondering whether to migrate to IRIS or to look for alternatives.  The comments from some users who have migrated don't seem to be very positive hence I'm a bit concerned whether to migrate or look for other alternatives.  

We use an in-house software for our accounting and use Taxfiler for filing purposes.

I would love to hear from you regarding other software alternatives which will give the same level of service like Taxfiler.

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By bigmuggsy
18th Mar 2024 14:27

Don't go near Iris. We transferred from these cowboys to Taxcalc, never looked back.

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By autumnleaf
18th Mar 2024 14:37

Hi,
Thanks for your comment. Would you be able to say why Taxcalc is better than Iris? Some pointers would be much helpful for us to decide.

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By bigmuggsy
18th Mar 2024 14:49

Well its much much cheaper for a start! We just find the software more user friendly, simple things like an instant transfer of the CT liability to accounts production, business and personal tax as one not separated.

Best thing to do would be give it a trial run.

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By WinterDragon
18th Mar 2024 15:38

bigmuggsy wrote:

Well its much much cheaper for a start!

Not necessarily cheaper, our subscription for Iris Elements Tax&Accounts is about £750+VAT for two users with unlimited accounts and unlimited, personal, partnership and corporation tax returns. Looking at TaxCalcs website it would be £1,305+VAT for the accounts and tax returns without mentioning ancillaries like the VAT bridging software and Trust tax (that we don't use).

Unless TaxCalc offer further discounts for buying multiple modules their published prices look to be more expensive - I do, admittedly, get regular emails from TaxCalc at various points of the year offering discounts to sign up.

I have not demo'd TaxCalc in a while but I prefer the look and feel of Taxfiler/elements but this is a personal preference. I'd agree the best thing to do is give it a trial run to see how it feels. I'd steer clear of things like absolute tax because we're looking forward with technology and not looking back to something that looks like it was designed for Windows XP. Sorry in advance to all the VT fans out there!

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By bigmuggsy
18th Mar 2024 17:10

With Iris we subscribed to Company Secretarial, Accounts Production, Business and personal tax and VAT filing. The cost was £1,043.07 per month.

With Taxcalc we subscribe to the exact same and pay £224.50 per month.

Its astronomically cheaper, the software is much better and the customer service is second to none.

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By WinterDragon
18th Mar 2024 17:46

I wonder if you might be comparing different products as IRIS Elements Tax & Accounts is a product that is no longer available to new customers and is now only available to TaxFiler customers migrating across. The prices are hidden in the marketplace and require logging in to view but the price listed for Tax&Accounts Pro is £36 per user per month or £388 per user annually.

This doesn't include the company secretarial bit but for a sole practitioner that wants unlimited accounts, personal/corporation tax returns, and VAT filing then it's £388 vs £1,305 annually. Are you sure the price you quote is for Iris Elements or is it for Iris accountancy suite or one of their bulkier products.

To be clear I am not comparing features, bells or whistles at this point and looking purely at price.

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By JD
19th Mar 2024 10:08

That is interesting - If Iris Elements Tax and Accounts is a product no longer available to new customers other than taxfiler users, one has to wonder what the longer term plan is for it.

Are there going to be lots of former Taxfiler users having migrated once, that then find Elements is no longer available in the fullness of time.

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By ClaireW
20th Mar 2024 23:01

I migrated yesterday from Taxfiler, the whole thing is messed up , I'm missing over 20 tax returns in Iris, random ones. Support are taking ages and made me go through and screenshot every client and every missing return. And to make matters worse I received an email today telling me that the price is going up at my next renewal (which I believe is tomorrow) Although they haven't said how much by. I'm furious.

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By Postingcomments
18th Mar 2024 14:28

"Taxfiler is being replaced by IRIS Elements Tax and Accounts"

Is it? I didn't know that.

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By FactChecker
18th Mar 2024 15:49

Presume that's sardonic?

Anyway my inner pedant says that it's not "being replaced by" (which suggests a free provision to Taxfiler licence holders) ... just that IRIS have announced the death of Taxfiler, and hope that users will migrate to Elements Tax and Accounts.
But based on previous experiences, they don't really care either way.

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By AdamJones82
18th Mar 2024 14:34

I’ve used it for over a year and can’t find any problems. I find Taxcalc clunky in comparison

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By autumnleaf
18th Mar 2024 14:39

Hi,

When you say clunky, clunky in which respect? Is it not user friendly?

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By John Toon
18th Mar 2024 15:12

Guess it depends on your needs, which you don't detail, but there are plenty of moves from many of the cloud players in the market to add more functionality to their products and the incumbents are finally shifting their on-prem solutions to the cloud piecemeal

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By autumnleaf
18th Mar 2024 15:23

Taxfiler was an extremely good tool as it took care of the filing, be it vat, self assessment, corporation tax or accounts.

We are looking for something like Taxfiler which supports the filing part. For accounting purpose we already have an in-house software so all we do is feed in the trial balance and Taxfiler does the rest.

So actually interested in something like this.

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By Leywood
18th Mar 2024 16:06

This question has popped up several times over the last few months.

Have a search (but not in the aweb search function!)

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