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Amendment to EPS

Amendment to EPS

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I use Payroll Manager.  For one of the clients there was SMP in month 1 and an EPS was filed.  At this point the Employer Allowance box wasn't ticked as Client was still deciding which business would claim it (I only do payroll for this Client and don't do anything for the other company).  Employer Allowance box then ticked but this didn't generate an EPS to file in month 2 (then no SMP either).  

Looking back on the EPS for month 1 it shows the Employment Allowance box as ticked even though it wasn't submitted with the box ticked.  In fact if I untick the box in the Employer Details box it changes it on the month 1 EPS - I would have expected that once something was submitted it would be locked. 

My choices seem to be to temporarily allow re-submissions and re-submit the month 1 EPS or use the HMRC basic toolkit and file a month 2 EPS.  HMRC said if your software won't allow it do via the toolkit but I don't want to do it as month 3 and have HMRC claim that the month 2 payment was late (month 1 was paid in full).  I don't know if I am opening a can of worms by re-submitting the month 1 EPS. 

Any advice please?

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By Old Greying Accountant
08th Jul 2014 21:08

You can file and re-file ...

... as often as you like, as far as I am aware - that is the whole point of RTI, as soon as something changes on a payroll you file it, again and again and again - any re-strictions will be limitations of your software, not RTI.

I have filed three or four FPS's for a month before now, you could do the same with a EPS, what if you filed and then an additional CIS PDS turned up?

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By EW110
08th Jul 2014 21:16

Thanks, will file an amended EPS for month 1.

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By onicholson
09th Jul 2014 00:48

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The EPS doesn't contain a tax period for recoveries. At this point, your EPS is a month 3 EPS, regardless of what recoveries you might be reporting. You can't do anything about a missed EPS filing for month 1 or 2 now other than tell them it wasn't filed at the time.

If you file it between 20th June and 19th July, the figures you send will be applied to month 3 regardless. Software may distinguish the months, often to work out what totals should be filed at this point, but HMRC only look at when you file it and apply the YTD figures to the current month.

They're adding a limited ability to specify the tax month for an EPS around October, but that still won't allow for backdated filing.

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By Kazmc
09th Jul 2014 09:55

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And RTI was supposed to make payroll 'easier and quicker'?

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By Carolynne
09th Jul 2014 10:31

Payroll Manager

If you are using Moneysoft Payroll Manager, have you phoned them, as their helpline is free, and will talk you through how to do this.01425 655777

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