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My AML registration is now nearly complete. I have done CDD on all my clients and collected up to date ID on all of them. These clients were given to me by my previous employer in lieu of unpaid wages. He is now asking me for my completed forms and all the client's ID. I have suspicions he is trying to steal the clients back. Do others share my suspicions?

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By David Ex
28th Oct 2023 00:05

Take legal advice.

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By SXGuy
28th Oct 2023 07:31

If he's your previous employer, he has no connection to you anymore. So why would you give him any sensitive data? It sounds no different to a random person asking me for my clients details.

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By Jason Croke
28th Oct 2023 08:02

Why does former employer need these details? They are now your clients aren't they?

Was any of this 'deal' done via lawyers, if not, then now is the time to take legal advice.

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By bernard michael
28th Oct 2023 09:24

You would contravene Data Protections rules if you comply. Tell him to ....................................!!

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By lionofludesch
28th Oct 2023 12:40

bernard michael wrote:

You would contravene Data Protections rules if you comply. Tell him to ....................................!!

Harsh but fair.

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By JD
28th Oct 2023 19:24

On leaving did you enter into any sort of agreement which included any sort of restraint around contacting/ soliciting them or dealing with them or clawback.

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By Kosher
28th Oct 2023 20:56

JD wrote:

On leaving did you enter into any sort of agreement which included any sort of restraint around contacting/ soliciting them or dealing with them or clawback.

No
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By Tom+Cross
30th Oct 2023 15:32

Did you and your former employer enter into any sort of "formal" agreement, as regards the clients who he/she was passing over to you.
I thought that yout former employer was short of liquid funds and "gave" you the clients in lieu of payment for your services.
If that was the case, he can't have it both ways.
Sounds like now is the time for some frank exchanges.

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By Kosher
30th Oct 2023 22:51

Tom+Cross wrote:

Did you and your former employer enter into any sort of "formal" agreement, as regards the clients who he/she was passing over to you.
I thought that yout former employer was short of liquid funds and "gave" you the clients in lieu of payment for your services.
If that was the case, he can't have it both ways.
Sounds like now is the time for some frank exchanges.

No formal agreement and no contact other than by post.
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By Leywood
30th Oct 2023 23:15

Can you possibly stop talking in vague terms?

So you have anything at all in black and white, email, letter or bag of a fag packet in his writing that states you get x number of clients or whatever in lieu of unpaid wages?

To be honest you’ve gone about this all [***] over t, so really haven’t helped yourself.

Have you instructed a solicitor or taken any legal advice since posting this? You really should. Ignore his requests for ID. Unless of course he is expecting you to provide them as an employee in which case he can pay you the back payments of wages.

I do hope you’ve had payslips and are looking for another job.

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By Calculatorboy
30th Oct 2023 20:25

I don't understand the question

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By birdman
31st Oct 2023 11:05

He hasn't "given you the clients", he's allowed you to approach them with a view to taking them on if they want to use your services. What do the clients say about who they want to act for them? Agree the forms etc should not be handed over.

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By Roland195
31st Oct 2023 11:17

I'm not sure if I am impressed with your dedication to still be persevering with this pending train wreck.

Are you absolutely sure you want to take over responsibility for these clients given the issues mentioned in your other thread? You'd likely get better results from a BNI meeting (or a Gambling Support Group if it came to it).

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
31st Oct 2023 12:01

Kosher wrote:

These clients were given to me by my previous employer in lieu of unpaid wages. He is now asking me for my completed forms and all the client's ID. I have suspicions he is trying to steal the clients back. Do others share my suspicions?

I suspect your former employer has found a buyer for his client-bank.

Based on the information you have provided, I vote you give him nothing.

Assuming, of course, you have all the handover information you need.

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By Kosher
31st Oct 2023 12:23

I'msorryIhaven'taclue wrote:

Kosher wrote:

These clients were given to me by my previous employer in lieu of unpaid wages. He is now asking me for my completed forms and all the client's ID. I have suspicions he is trying to steal the clients back. Do others share my suspicions?

I suspect your former employer has found a buyer for his client-bank.

Based on the information you have provided, I vote you give him nothing.

Assuming, of course, you have all the handover information you need.

His company owes me £5,000 unpaid wages which is about equal to the annual fee income. I have set up Government Gateway business tax accounts for all clients prior to my AML coming through so I can set up my ASA. I hold all client IDs. I have set up all clients with all proper documentation necessary on signing them up. My plan is to do their work for next two years and then I will retire, and being the ages they are they probably will be retired as well. I have been in touch with a firm of accountants to see what they would pay for my few clients and I am also considering amalgamating with another firm so there is an easy continuance of the standard of work being done. I have all files of working papers and correspondence including computer based records and my previous employer now has none of these records or information. So I am sitting pretty!
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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
01st Nov 2023 16:14

Good luck!

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By AndrewGM
08th Nov 2023 11:33

Ask him why he wants this information.

Your agreement should have prevented him from acting for any clients given to you

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