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Are tools for repairing company vehicle allowable?

Director claims that tools purchased are for repairing the company vehicle so allowable.

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Our client (sole director of a limco) has purchased specialised tools during the year of an automotive nature.  His business is not automotive.  When asked, he claimed that the company had purchased the tools in order for him to effect repairs personally on one of the company's vehicles.  Said vehicle has been off the road for several months waiting for him to do it.

Is it reasonable, assuming that the director has the relevant knowledge and ability, for him to claim that there is no obligation for him to take the company's vehicle to a garage and that he has taken it upon himself to fix the vehicle?  It is a roughly 13 year old vehicle.  I realise that, having said that it has been off the road for several months, there is a chance that he will never get around to it but that's another argument for further down the road.

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By lionofludesch
27th Nov 2017 13:15

Yes - if you're happy that it's so.

It'd be nice if he actually used the tools, though, even if the job were never completed.

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By Ruddles
27th Nov 2017 15:51

It might be an academic point, but what do you mean by "allowable"?

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By DJKL
27th Nov 2017 15:57

The trouble with tools is that just like drugs they can be the start of a very slippery slope, before you know it they are everywhere, and one of each is never enough.

The sad thing is when you review what actually got used in the last 12 months it is the same 20-30 each year, all the rest just hang about like wallflowers, the tap spanner tool bought to rewire those table lamps etc.,though my heavy wrench gets good use, downstairs keep borrowing it for their ropey central heating, but I never need it.

My collection has, amongst other things, about 50 screwdrivers, 7-8 pairs of pliers, 2-3 pinchers, two heavy duty staplers, three power drills, 2.5 socket sets, 2 circular saws, two jigsaws, four sanders, 2 sabre saws, 3 chainsaws (though 2 need repairs), various saws, two sets of chisels, a vast collection of model making tools (were mainly my father's), about six hammers, planes, rasps, files , tin snips a paint sprayer, electric tile cutter, blow torches and heat guns and a whole lot more.

So do not castigate your client, they likely need therapy and maybe the tools will even be needed one day; I once was thankful I owned 3 extension cable reels as we needed to jury rig a pump to stop a ship sinking (nearest socket was a long way away) .

When accounts get boring I leave the study and head next door to my 6ft by 6ft cupboard with its workbench and pegged tool board above, happy to potter about sorting, rehanging etc, and that is only a quarter of them (the bit the other half notices), in Sweden a rather nifty 35 foot long shed (three rooms so scale of what is there is not so apparent) houses far more and the garage at work (she never sees) has my workchest on castors with everything one needs for hours of wasted time with an older car (what do you mean you only need one multimeter and a strobe light for timing is dated), there are also those that stay in the two garden sheds in Edinburgh and the one in Sweden.

At the moment I get round the main issue (my other half) by spreading them in different locations, but at some point we will move house, everything will come to one location and she is going to blow a fuse. I keep trying to suggest slyly that for retirement we need a house with a four car garage, or equivalent, she has just not yet fully twigged why.

Garden sheds were designed so that man can commune with tools, surely your client deserves the benefit of the doubt (or therapy, or both)

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By Smokoe Joe
27th Nov 2017 16:18

This struck a chord with me. Why is it women expect you to stand idly by for hours whilst they look at and try shoes and bags, yet in the DIY store we are barely allowed to look at the power tools, let alone touch them, feel their machismo, feed that connection to our inner caveman, as we are dragged to look at colour charts of what appear to a man to be identical blocks of white paint despite the descriptions beneath.

You would have thought after all these hundreds of years womankind would have worked out mankind can perceive only 10 colours, 2 of which are absolute and the other 8 have only two variations from standard, being light or dark.

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By andy.partridge
27th Nov 2017 16:19

How do you allow yourself to be dragged to look at colour charts? Solve that one and the rest will follow.

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By Smokoe Joe
27th Nov 2017 16:26

That is not possible through mystical process of female wiles coupled with the mythical promises of sexual favours that dissipate like morning mist once they have had their wicked way. This is reinforced by the ardent desire for a quiet life whereby three hours of boredom are much more favourable to a prolonged campaign of huffs, sighs and ice cold stares that make Paddington's seem positively friendly, and that is before the nagging starts, which invariably ends with a complete list of every single (perceived) transgression since we met, and boy, that is a long list.

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By andy.partridge
27th Nov 2017 16:38

Are you sure she isn't just waiting for you to shave the beard? Try it and tell me if it wasn't the best thing to happen to your relationship in years.

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By DJKL
27th Nov 2017 17:01

If one shaves of a beard you have nothing left with which to negotiate, far better to go for increments. Let it grow a bit long, get moaned at, and then trim it to a respectable or even a short length;- these electric trimmers are wonderful things.

Beards and marriage are not merely a single battle but are more a sustained war with advances and retreats on both sides.

And of course the ultimate defence, well, I had a moustache when you first met me/ when we got married is in my case always available, albeit it is now a different colour, white/grey.

The beard battle also goes hand in hand with the, why do you always wear checked shirts battle, the simple answer being they go with the tools and the double layer ones are very warm, also the top pockets are really useful re screws and nails etc which make a very interesting sound in the washing machine.

And if in doubt you are losing there is always the well timed offensive re share of wardrobe space, hat boxes and why are some of her shoes at the foot of your only wardrobe when she has three other perfectly good ones at her disposal.

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By Smokoe Joe
27th Nov 2017 16:20

If he doesn't fix it the argument is unlikely to be further down the road, if he does there will be no argument!

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By andy.partridge
27th Nov 2017 16:24

It sounds to me as though you don't believe your client, but would like someone to say that it doesn't matter that you don't believe him. It does matter.

Am I right in thinking that you suspect the tools were not purchased for the purpose given, that they perhaps never will be, that they are not still boxed waiting for him to get round to it, but have already been used extensively on vehicles unconnected with the company?

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By memyself-eye
28th Nov 2017 10:47

How old was the vehicle? 13 years you say. Then any spanners will be metric. If he uses the nomenclature 'wrench' send him back to the US of A without further ado. If he buys 'AF' spanners then the vehicle is of 1960's vintage, if Whitworth then pre war. Amaze him by pointing out that 'AF' is the distance Across (the) Flat (of the bolt head) while Whitworth sizes are measured across the diameter of the shank (the long bit with the screw threads on the end).
A whole new career could await you.

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