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Best software to submit a few CT600s each year?

Best cheap software to file a few CT600s each year?

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I only have a few clients who need to file CT600s and need some software that will file XBRL CT600s, sometimes two in one year (split periods). Any recommendations? Thanks all.

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By Leywood
12th May 2022 16:19

This has been asked pretty recently, someone who had very few like you, have a quick search.

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By Dougscott
12th May 2022 17:52

Tried that - can't seem to find the solution I want from answers given. TaxFiler is closest but I've tried that before and things went badly wrong and I'd rather have software that is a "per CT600/iXBRL set of accounts" licence fee so I pay as I go.

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By carnmores
13th May 2022 12:45

BADLY WRONG , WHAT ON EARTH DID YOU FAIL TO DO ITS SIMPLE EFFICIENT
(LOST GLASSES AGAIN)

TRY TOPUP TAX FROM ABSOLUTE

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By Catherine Newman
12th May 2022 16:34

I am using Capium, an online package. It does Accounts Production and takes it through to CT600. I found it very difficult to start with but am getting used to it. I have around 10 limited companies.

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By Dougscott
12th May 2022 17:37

Unfortunately the basic package with just Accounts Production and CT filing is £432 per annum (including VAT).

Andica appears to be £45 per company to file a CT600 (and does the accounts iXBRL) included.

TopupTax is only £5 per company but you also need Accounts Production software to turn accounts into iXBRL - so need to find cheap AP software now!

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By Leywood
12th May 2022 17:54

VT for Accounts Production. So easy to use, great software and great pricing.

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By DKB-Sheffield
12th May 2022 17:36

If you don't already have iXBRL tagged accounts, Taxfiler £10 pcm version will cover accounts and CT for 10 clients.

If you already have accounts in tagged iXBRL format, Absolute (TopUp Tax) is worth a look. Andica also has low-user rates for CT.

However, it depends what software you use for your other clients (e.g. SA) as you may get an add-on for that (e.g. Taxcalc)

There are, of course,many other options, they're pretty easy to find on Google and, tbf it's what works for you - and your budget!

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By Dougscott
12th May 2022 17:50

There's so many on Google it's hard to know where to start so better to ask accountants who use it.

TopUpTax looks perfect - at £5 per CT600 - but you need iXBRL accounts and it only allows you to file for accounts up to 31/3/22 at the moment.

I have tried Taxfiler but it allowed me to file an incorrect CT600 with no way of retrieving or correcting it which took ages to sort out with HMRC who couldn't handle the situation either!

So I'd like to find either AP software or integrated software (that isn't TaxFiler) to find a package that works on a "per set of accounts basis" at a reasonable cost.

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By carnmores
13th May 2022 16:19

well you should have submitted an amendment thru taxfiler, you are clearly struggling with the whole thing, get some help

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By Chris Downing
12th May 2022 20:03

Preparing financial statements and CT600 is free with Sage for Accountants here: https://www.sage.com/en-gb/accountants/

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By DKB-Sheffield
12th May 2022 21:23

Hi Chris

Please could you just clarify (for OP, me and others), is CT, PT and AP now free for all clients - regardless of whether the client has a Sage Accounting subscription?

I've not been upgraded from Partner Edition yet so am unsure as to whether this is now the case. I know there used to be a charge for PT, CT and AP to use these for clients without a subscription.

Clearly, if a subscription is also required, that may put off the OP who seems to be after a cheaper alternative.

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By Chris Downing
13th May 2022 10:56

Correct, CT, PT and AP when you're upgraded to Sage for Accountants

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By Dougscott
13th May 2022 11:49

When you can actually find the pricing on the website it is completely unintelligible anyway which is not what I need.

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By Dougscott
13th May 2022 15:22

Dougscott wrote:

When you can actually find the pricing on the website it is completely unintelligible anyway which is not what I need.

I rang Sage and they tried to transfer me to the Leeds area rep. After being on hold for a while they suggested a callback. Said the rep would callback in "5-10 minutes". Three hours later I'm still waiting. I'm not sure they want to expalin their pricing structure....

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By Hugo Fair
13th May 2022 13:25

".. when you're upgraded .."
sounds suspiciously like "after you've paid us for some other offering first."

Can you confirm what one has to do (and what it costs) to get to the position where one can take advantage of the 'free upgrade'?
[Your website is as opaque with regard to pricing as any that I've encountered].

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By DKB-Sheffield
13th May 2022 17:06

I would second (and 3rd) Hugo and Leywood!

When will we be upgraded?

On another - related point. You currently have a reduced offer for Sage Accounting (ends 18th May) but it appears to be for 'Sage for Accountants' users only (additional discounts are not shown on Partner Edition!). It's advertised all over AWeb but, seems to not apply to those who have not yet been upgraded (i.e. the loyal customer base).

I have a few (perpetual license) desktop users who would like to move to the cloud but don't want to change software providers. They know about the enhanced discount but don't understand why I won't sign them up!

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By Leywood
13th May 2022 16:11

Agree with Hugo - 'Can you confirm what one has to do (and what it costs) to get to the position where one can take advantage of the 'free upgrade'?'

Come on Chris, expand on this please.

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By spilly
13th May 2022 00:19

VT for the accounts production and TopUp Tax for the CT600 works out pretty reasonably.
And VT can also be used for sole trader & partnership accounts, so that might help spread the cost.

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By Geoff56
13th May 2022 09:09

I use VT for accounts and Ftax for the CT600.
https://www.ftax.co.uk/

You can buy in different size packages from Ftax e.g. if you want just five CT600s, that would be £75 + VAT.

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By JustAnotherUser
13th May 2022 09:16

Sage is £0.00 a month, cant get much cheaper than that.

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By Dougscott
13th May 2022 11:51

Free? How do they make a profit then?

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By carnmores
13th May 2022 16:20

rubbish

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By MCV71
13th May 2022 16:53

I think you will find it is free only if you use Sage online accounting in the first place.

You really think they are going to give free tax and accounts production software for people who don't use them for bookkeeping?

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By Dougscott
13th May 2022 19:21

Well, I have spent all of this afternoon trying out Sage for Accountants. First thing I would say is that their helpline and chatline were no help at all, however the product was simple enough so that I eventually managed to set up a client and access the free Accounts Production and CT600 software. And it does appear to be free. I simply entered a TB and a comparative TB to create a set of accounts which was converted to iXBRL for use with the CT600 submission. I wasn't entirely convinced by the CT600 software but it created a submission which was then successfully filed with HMRC. Whether HMRC will accept the submission I am not sure but we will see. So it does appear that Sage for Accountants is one way to file the occasional CT600 for free.

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By MCV71
13th May 2022 19:38

I just tried to add a client to my Sage dashboard and it said I couldn't because there's no paid subscription in place for them

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By DKB-Sheffield
13th May 2022 19:42

Are you still on the Partner Edition? If so, it seems like we've not been invited to join the club yet!

It's one of the first times I've experienced any software provider offering an improved service to new customers before existing ones! Even Iris haven't tried that one!

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By carnmores
13th May 2022 20:49

LOL

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