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Biased moderation

Biased moderation

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Is it just me, or is the moderation biased?

Business owners get shirty, insult posters,  delete their original questions and replies. Nothing done.

Accountants tell a business owner that they are best placed to engage an accountant, and like a summoned genie, up pops a moderator. 

 

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By Tax Dragon
02nd Jul 2020 10:43

Try being a nurse. Or a teacher. Or police officer. (Etc.)

Rude OPs make the forum stink, but are much easier to ignore than someone actually standing in front of you. And, given that the mods don't deal with them, ignoring them is the only option left. (An option that nurses, teachers etc don't have.)

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
02nd Jul 2020 10:57

I think it the fact that board members don't make complaints

Shirty questioners who don't like being told to take some proper advice, do.

I have moderated a forum and its a thankless task. In fact I never let on that I did it for years as you have to flip from board member to "high handed wielder of the edit button" and its never fun and always arbitrary. I should point out for clarity this was 20 years ago, nothing to do with on here, in the infancy of message boards.

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By Mr_awol
02nd Jul 2020 11:41

ireallyshouldknowthisbut wrote:

I think it the fact that board members don't make complaints

Shirty questioners who don't like being told to take some proper advice, do.

This is partly it - but there has also been a noticeable shift in the attitude of moderation. I think newbies and freeloaders have always made reports when things don't go their way- they just weren't pandered to with this new broom #BeKind nonsense like they are now.

I rarely get, send, or look at PMs - but looking at my inbox this week I saw one from Richard about five years ago telling me that my post had been reported in this thread - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/should-i-keep-accumulating-d... - The OP had taken huge offence to me saying that "It is worrying to say the least that Vicki is apparently AAT qualified, acting for clients, but doesn't appear to know her debits from her credits and is blissfully unaware of what is happening with this DLA............."

Now, it's clear to all that Vicki was well out of her depth, and I make no apology for being one of those that pointed this out. She threw a paddy, reported me, and the admin sent me a little note saying the post had been reported but that "it was pleasing to see that you later followed up with a lengthily reply, explaining your perspective".

No holier-than-thou condescending telling off. No threats to ban me. No big deal. Perhaps the site admin had no agenda to push, or ego to feed, back then.

Last week, on the other hand...................

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By Tax Dragon
02nd Jul 2020 11:36

Chris have you been a naughty boy or summat? Your posts keep disappearing.

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By Chris.Mann
02nd Jul 2020 12:01

Tried editing the original, taking account and acknowledging my learned friends correction and guess what, it's now disappeared!

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By DJKL
02nd Jul 2020 13:05

Apologies , should have kept quiet, law of unintended consequences etc, with me these sort of things tend to be age related.

I managed it last night with an e mail, started typing it using the wrong e mail account, realised, cut text to repaste into correct e mail account e mail, somehow lost this and about half an hour's careful typing was gone- then wished I had just sent it with the wrong e mail, hindsight is wonderful.

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By Mr_awol
02nd Jul 2020 11:58

I think he took the lord's* name in vain.

*Or is that false idol?

Anyway - I'm off to do some proper work, before I drag myself into more of this silly stuff. Your other thread was going to be seen by 'the powers that be' I believe - did they say when? Not that it will do too much good as I think there are missing entries from that thread too (I cant be sure, but I had thought there were more posts before NH's, originally). By the time it does get reviewed perhaps it will have been trimmed down to only include the ones that support a certain angle.

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By Tax Dragon
02nd Jul 2020 12:08

From PMs with more than one mod both prior to and since that thread, I think something will happen. (Or, at least, is up for discussion.)

Don't know what, don't know how, don't know when. Don't know much actually (uh-oh... cue DJKL singing... or Justin saying "at last she acknowledges it!"... best follow you into the work lobby).

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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
02nd Jul 2020 12:58

I can only sing in writing, nobody ever wants to hear my other type of singing.

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By Chris.Mann
02nd Jul 2020 12:04

I can only presume that I've included (very inadvertently) something I shouldn't?

For the life of me, I'm completely in the dark, with this?

And frankly, not at all funny!

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By Chris.Mann
02nd Jul 2020 12:06

Repost

As Tax Dragon suggests, in the great scheme of things, it really isn't that important, compared to what some sectors of society, have to tolerate.

Perhaps try and develop your own moderation? Completely ignore all those posts that might possibly cause personal inconvenience, or angst?

In the long run, it's simply a platform, very much swayed towards the accountancy profession. Aweb is certainly not the "community" which it once was but, in recent months, I've come to the conclusion that, the only one who ends up upset, is me. And why would I venture down that road?

Strangely, in the last few years more and more of the posts, are simply; illiterate, provide little information and just show a downright lack of basic nouce. Rudeness, arrogance, simply compounds the tragedy. However, in the great scheme of things, I'm not forced to take part.

Possibly a time to sort the wheat (edited per DJKL), from the chaff, in our own minds and discount the virtual assistant referee.

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By Constantly Confused
02nd Jul 2020 12:23

Chris.Mann wrote:

Possibly a time to sort the wheat (edited per DJKL), from the chaff, in our own minds and discount the virtual assistant referee.

Oh I love these, did you put 'weak from the chaff' then? Clearly not a God botherer... ;)

Do you also say 'damp squid' and 'taken for granite'? :)

To be clear (and in the spirit of this thread!) I am hopefully gently teasing and in no way intending to make fun of you.

My other half is a goldmine of these, I do genuinly love them. Pronunciation of words is another, given a huge chunk of my fancier vocabulary is from books I mispronounce a lot of things, and so love it when others do too. Ahh the debate we had when 'hyperbowl' was suggested by them as an answer while watching Pointless... :)

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By Red Leader
02nd Jul 2020 12:43

You've got me going now.
"I would of" instead of "I would've".

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By legerman
02nd Jul 2020 13:08

Constantly Confused wrote:

Pronunciation of words is another, given a huge chunk of my fancier vocabulary is from books I mispronounce a lot of things, and so love it when others do too. Ahh the debate we had when 'hyperbowl' was suggested by them as an answer while watching Pointless... :)

To my shame, I was 27 years old before discovering that lingerie wasn't pronounced the same way. (hard g)

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By DJKL
02nd Jul 2020 13:28

I could make a comment that it depended on the wearer whether it did or did not, but that might be considered sexist.

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By Chris.Mann
02nd Jul 2020 13:35

I had a similar problem, in my childhood, with Chemist.

Risking sexism, I've never had a problem with lingerie.

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By Tax Dragon
02nd Jul 2020 14:45

So now you say it to rhyme with gingery?

I've got some more news for you....

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By SteveHa
02nd Jul 2020 13:27

Constantly Confused wrote:

Do you also say 'damp squid' .....

In defense of this one, aren't all squid damp?

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By Constantly Confused
02nd Jul 2020 13:41

SteveHa wrote:

Constantly Confused wrote:

Do you also say 'damp squid' .....

In defense of this one, aren't all squid damp?

I think therein lies the reason so many people mix it up :)

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By DJKL
02nd Jul 2020 13:32

Just watch Charlie /Paul/Phil/Matt etc on Gillette Soccer Saturday, I think they do a special once a year compilation of some of the phrases used. And then , of course, there are the Chris Kamara outtakes.

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By Paul Crowley
02nd Jul 2020 19:23

But Chris is special.
Spoken from Swindon

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By Tax Dragon
02nd Jul 2020 14:47

Constantly Confused wrote:

Oh I love these...

And curiously ordered nouns and adjectives... e.g. green tree monitor lizard (so called because it monitors green trees?)

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By Chris.Mann
02nd Jul 2020 13:37

Well, one has to admit, this thread is completely out of sink!

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By Constantly Confused
02nd Jul 2020 13:43

Chris.Mann wrote:

Well, one has to admit, this thread is completely out of sink!

Haha, I typed 'insert angry face' within pointy brackets (shift plus comma/full stop) and it didn't put anything, must be some sort of coding I stumbled into.

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By Matrix
02nd Jul 2020 15:00

I don’t really follow the replies and I would love to be the grammar police on many posts but I don’t think that is #BeKind.

I would like to point out the general trend today to call HMRC for help or to only use google for technical support, but that wouldn’t #BeKind either.

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By Tax Dragon
02nd Jul 2020 15:17

TBH, Matrix, I'm as concerned about as many responses (not on this thread - in the forum generally) as I am about the questions. There are many subjects that I know little about (and, if I'm being honest, I agree with Justin that I should stay off those threads more than I do[*]); however, there are some subjects that I know enough about to say with confidence that a large number of (the) replies are made on the basis of what the respondent thinks makes sense, whereas there is (certainly in tax) normally an answer (quite often - not always, of course - a different answer) that is provided by legislation/case law.

Edit: [*] most often, I get involved because I'm curious to learn. Seldom (not never, admittedly) do I manage to learn anything. Which might in itself be a comment about the quality of the answers.

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By Matrix
02nd Jul 2020 17:22

Yes the replies are a concern. This was raised on your thread and Sift’s lawyers and insurers can decide if it is an issue or not.

Maybe it is not just this site, maybe the profession has changed. We wouldn’t even let HMRC in the building unless we had prepared a room nowhere near where the business operated and, if a colleague suggested they had used google as their main source of technical research, we would have been horrified.

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By Paul Crowley
02nd Jul 2020 19:30

Feels like a new thread, but inevitably monitors tend to be dealing mostly with complaints
So far one PM after deletion but rec'd apology and I reposted
One unexplained deletion, not worth asking about.

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