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Has anyone ever been to a place that advises as to possible careers?

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So I think I'm done with tax (I know, "I didn't realise you ever started based on the rubbish you post on here..."), though I might just be done with my current employer and their ethos/atmosphere/environment.  Assuming it is the former that leaves me needing to find a new career, which I think would be much easier if I could chat to someone who can take my ramblings, ask questions that get to know what I like/don't like, how my mind works etc... and then say 'I think you'd suit ######', or hopefully mutiple #####'s.

Surely there are places that do this sort of thing, I had a guy come see me at school to do exactly that, so there must be an adult version (or an online version).  Has anyone ever used such a service?

Said conversation may in fact reveal I do still enjoy tax, but don't suit the environment I am in perhaps.  Which would be good to know too.

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21st Mar 2019 10:36

I don't know about a careers advisory service but have you thought about teaching at all? Specialist knowledge can open doors for you that don't necessarily lead to you working in the industry you're trying to leave. Institutes and CPD providers are looking for people with industry/practice experience looking for a change of pace.

Or, conversely, you could write a novel, I quite fancy that.

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to Duggimon
21st Mar 2019 10:50

Duggimon wrote:

I don't know about a careers advisory service but have you thought about teaching at all? Specialist knowledge can open doors for you that don't necessarily lead to you working in the industry you're trying to leave. Institutes and CPD providers are looking for people with industry/practice experience looking for a change of pace.

Or, conversely, you could write a novel, I quite fancy that.

My whole life (well, a good chunk of it) I've had people tell me I should teach (which I have scoffed at, given I consider myself middling in even my specialist subjects, never mind other fields. That and my attitude has always been 'I'm here to teach, but if you don't want to learn then don't', which is hardly conducive to molding young minds!), but oddly these last few months I have had the opportunity to teach someone 'from scratch' and realised I've never really thought about teaching at that level (as in, I've always thought I sucked at teaching peers, which I undoubtably do, one question and I tend to fall apart, but if I were teaching something ATT level or comparable I reckon I'd be able to handle almost every question or justifiably say 'that is way beyond what you need to know for this subject...' without it being an issue.)

I think I would enjoy teaching the ATT, or comparable, based on my recent toe dip. But I get the impression tutors are 10 a penny so the market is hyper competitive, at which point I am back to 'not good enough'.

Also I would LOVE to write a novel, but sadly I was not blessed with a wealth of imagination...

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to Constantly Confused
21st Mar 2019 13:32

Constantly Confused wrote:

Also I would LOVE to write a novel, but sadly I was not blessed with a wealth of imagination...

Hasn't stopped Katie Price.

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to andy.partridge
21st Mar 2019 14:02

andy.partridge wrote:

Constantly Confused wrote:

Also I would LOVE to write a novel, but sadly I was not blessed with a wealth of imagination...

Hasn't stopped Katie Price.

There is no stopping Katie Price.

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to Constantly Confused
22nd Mar 2019 10:28

the police regularly stop Katie Price

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to C Graham
22nd Mar 2019 10:33

Who is Katie Price?

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By DJKL
21st Mar 2019 11:59

Great advice here from MP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOQH4xEyhM

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to DJKL
21st Mar 2019 12:37

DJKL wrote:

Great advice here from MP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOQH4xEyhM

Yes I intentionally didn't rule out lion taming, as I wanted someone to have to opportunity to make that reference :)

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21st Mar 2019 13:05

CC....there are often freelancer teaching roles available (normally weekends and evenings), with no long-term committment required. Have you thought about trying it whilst you are still in your current role? It may give you some ideas on what to do next before making any permanent decisions.

I started teaching occasionally 10 years ago (alongside being in practice) and love it.

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to gainsborough
21st Mar 2019 14:01

gainsborough wrote:

CC....there are often freelancer teaching roles available (normally weekends and evenings), with no long-term committment required. Have you thought about trying it whilst you are still in your current role? It may give you some ideas on what to do next before making any permanent decisions.

I started teaching occasionally 10 years ago (alongside being in practice) and love it.

How did you start? Like did you just email organisations or did you respond to an ad?

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to Constantly Confused
22nd Mar 2019 10:03

Most of the larger training providers will advertise freelancer roles on their vacancies pages, which is how I originally got started.

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21st Mar 2019 17:07

As you note in your opening post, is it bean counting you detest? Or your employer's environment?

Clearly you are good at what you do from the posts you make on here, you just have raging self doubt which quite frankly is what makes you good at stuff.

Its people who think they are good who are usually useless.

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to ireallyshouldknowthisbut
21st Mar 2019 17:18

ireallyshouldknowthisbut wrote:

As you note in your opening post, is it bean counting you detest? Or your employer's environment?

Clearly you are good at what you do from the posts you make on here, you just have raging self doubt which quite frankly is what makes you good at stuff.

Its people who think they are good who are usually useless.

Very kind, but I defy you to find a single AW post where I show knowledge in accountancy or taxation :)

Snarking and flippant comments by the dozen, but I don't actually help. Not to say I am stupid, I am good at my job, I just don't demonstrate it on here :)

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to ireallyshouldknowthisbut
22nd Mar 2019 10:31

Its people who think they are good who are usually useless.

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Which is dangerous if you are a lion tamer

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21st Mar 2019 18:01

So who do you know, like, respect and trust that has experience in this industry? Even if you don't know them that well, people are usually flattered to be asked their advice.

This could be for the price of a lunch, or even longer term mentoring arrangement...

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22nd Mar 2019 11:28

Have you thought of working for yourself on a self-employed basis? It takes a long time to get sufficient clients but you do avoid all the office politics which is what I suspect you dislike. Neither do you feel the need to complete with others - just do the work at a reasonable price.

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22nd Mar 2019 19:14

Agreed - I am now self-employed having worked in industry for 25 years. I love the fact that there are no pointless team meetings, away days, or being asked to drive to Kidderminster (say) at 5 mins notice.

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23rd Mar 2019 12:03

There are definitely career counsellors out there, but as I starting point I recommend an excellent resource called careershifters dot org. Their website is full of really inspiring stories from people who have changed careers, including where they went wrong and how they decided what to change to. Lots of advice from career change advisors too.
I am nearly ready to begin. I'm going to cut my hours as soon as I am clear of the hive-down I'm working on so I can work on my own project while still paying the bills. Good luck, I hope you find something that feels right for you. Just don't wait 20 years like I did

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25th Mar 2019 10:00

If you don't think a career in tax quite fits the bill then it's best that you duck out as soon as you can. Just upping and leaving might sound like a quacking idea but probably best to start peking about for something else first.

In all seriousness though it might just be the current employer. I got to that stage a couple of years ago and was thinking about any career to get out of the situation. Even initially when I moved I was still scunnered by it all but it all but that ended up passing. I work in a really good environment now and whilst tax is far from the most exiting thing in the world, I no longer hate going into work.

I'd try moving to another employer, and if that doesn't change things within a year or two then change career.

As for the novel, start small and see where it takes you. Start getting your idea on paper and build on it whenever you feel in the mood. It might turn out to be a pile of garbage, but if you enjoy making it, then who cares. If you go into it not expecting too much, but just to enjoy the journey, then any success will be a pleasant surprise.

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25th Mar 2019 10:15

When I took redundancy from a corporate banking career back in 2007 (scary how long ago that is!) as part of the package I was sent to a company called Penna.

Along with workshops about how not to get depressed by being made redundant (didnt attend, was v.v. happy!), they also took you through one to one sessions about 'whats next in life' in career terms aiding folk to move away from their original chosen careers by using existing skillsets to find other meaningful roles out there in the bag bad world.

Have to say I didnt really avail myself fully of their services as I took my redundancy as early retirement (only ended up here in my current role due to terminal boredom!). The small element I did see was very professionaly delivered.

No idea if they still offer the same type of service - might be worth a google.

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26th Mar 2019 10:10

As I know you all hang on my every word and are desperate to hear any news or updates from my life (or because I'm an attention horse, one or the other), I thought you might all like to know I am going to try and stick with tax a little longer via a final foray. I'm hoping to have an interview or at least an informal chat with a place near my house shortly.

So I'm shelving lion taming for the moment, much to the relief of the lions.

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