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Change in Punctuation

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When did the *asterisk* replace "inverted commas" for reporting speech ?

Gets right up my nose......

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By paul.benny
18th Oct 2019 09:43

Don't think it has. More common usage of asterisks is for *emphasis*. In outlook, auto-correct boldens text between.

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By SteveOH
18th Oct 2019 09:43

I "hadn't noticed" that it had. The only time I've seen the *asterisk* being used is for example in FaceBook and AWeb when you can't italicise.

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By SteLacca
18th Oct 2019 10:23

The only time I see it is in a spreadsheet or script when multiplying.

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By accountantccole
18th Oct 2019 10:51

Come to France we have << text>> for our speech marks

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By lionofludesch
19th Oct 2019 11:59

The French are crazy.

Having said that, we had a player come over from France last year. At a post match meal in Batley, I remarked to a colleague "Sithee at Max, getting stuck in to tcuisine anglaise".

Max turned to us and said "I love zeeze; we do not 'ave zem in France".

What was he eating ? Mushy peys.

Every palate can be educated.

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By Hugh Simpson
18th Oct 2019 12:45

Lion - you want to get out more.

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By lionofludesch
19th Oct 2019 11:54
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By sosleepy
18th Oct 2019 13:15

I've never noticed this but it would certainly annoy me if I did.

On the subject of punctuation , my son asked me the other day why nobody ever abbreviates "there it is" to "there it's". Apart from sounding wrong, which could just be due to being unfamiliar with hearing it, the only reason I could think of was that in "there it is" the emphasis is on the "is", but when abbreviated the emphasis by default would be on the "it". Is there some actual rule of grammar which forbids it? Or some other reason it's not done?

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By chicken farmer
18th Oct 2019 19:49

"it's" is possessive, so it wouldn't be correct to use it in place of"it is".

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By johnhemming
18th Oct 2019 20:36

Those chickens are addling your brains.
https://www.lexico.com/en/grammar/its-or-it-s

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By chicken farmer
19th Oct 2019 09:32

Well spotted! I wondered if anyone would notice

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By DJKL
18th Oct 2019 23:56
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By SteveOH
19th Oct 2019 12:11

I'm not sure if there is a rule of grammar which forbids it, except the general one that says that if a particular sentence construction sound wrong then don't use it.

"There it's" sounds clumsy whereas "It's there" does not.

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By lionofludesch
19th Oct 2019 11:51

Emphasis my Rs.

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By johnhemming
19th Oct 2019 12:52

The use of "*" for emphasis is quite widely spread in various ways.
https://www.livinginternet.com/i/ia_text_emph.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown

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By Bubz
25th Oct 2019 14:23

Use of asterisks for emphasis was formalised in the specification of Markdown (https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/) in 2004; even then it was just reflecting what had arisen as common usage on e-mails and electronic news groups, back when we couldn’t use formatted text. (Remember smilies before emojis became a thing?)

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