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CJRS Announcement tomorrow - CREATIVE/IMAGINATIVE

Words send horror shocks thru me

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Further to my earlier post Rishi to announce tomorrow a new JRS. " Creative & Imaginative". 
Does that make your stomach lurch. It does me. I can see his smugness as us payroll providers sink into deeper gloom as yet another ill thought out scheme is thrust our way with no clue as to how it will be implemented. And when it is HMRC will make it as complicated as it can. Especially for Zero hours. And when their stringent rules come thru it will be on a Friday night.  I'm a real " Negative Nelly" aren't I?  Sorry. 
 

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By Moonbeam
23rd Sep 2020 18:01

@NYB - Spot on in my view.

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
23rd Sep 2020 18:03

"negative nelly?" "Realistic assumption" I would suggest.

Weekend? You wanted a weekend? Rushi says its cancelled as they will drop all the half arsed statements on the plebs at 6pm Friday and retire to the commons bar laughing.

Then in about 2 weeks they will announce the detail, one week into the scheme commencing.

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By AWeb72
23rd Sep 2020 18:12

I am gutted. I have hated doing furlough calcs ever since the scheme came in and have been counting down the end ever since.
I also lost a client - one I'd had over 10 years - because she was always ringing about this (quite a messy payroll) and to protect my sanity I had to let calls go to voicemail to return when I chose to. Because I didn't answer on demand she went elsewhere.
If he's going to do something, why not just leave the current scheme in place but you can only claim if in certain sectors.
We don't need any more fricking schemes.

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By Paul Crowley
23rd Sep 2020 18:18

dread

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By Barbara G
23rd Sep 2020 18:42

Good grief how hard can they push us? Us payroll processor have worked our guts off without any time to properly read the rules and tried to calculate furlough using our own home designed spreadsheets trying our best to ensure those sitting at home doing nothing could get paid while we forfeited holidays and previous family time working all our waking hours for no extra pay. I would willingly have sat at home for no pay. Now we face the anxiety of the looming deadline of 20th October to own up to our mistakes when in reality we haven't had time to even check. Many sleepless nights, panic attacks, a prescription for vallium and 2 phone calls to the Samaritans is where it's taken me. When HMRC conducts checks we'll be the innocent victims who'll be hauled over the coals for trying to do our best. And now they want to push more onto us? Just having a rant, but I assume most of you feel the same? When this is all over I'll be jacking in my job, life is too precious for this stress and personal sacrifice, I'll stay at home for no pay.

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By PandoraSleeps
24th Sep 2020 07:32

Couldn’t have put it better. No holiday since last xmas and feel physically sick at what’s to come today.

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By Paul Crowley
24th Sep 2020 07:56

And above all no thanks or appreciation: no concept of the stress of constantly evolving rules to comply with by the clients we donated our time and mental health to.
Add to that those not affected seem to consider we have spent 5 months doing nothing useful

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By Cheshire
24th Sep 2020 14:50

Oh heck Barbara, thats not good. At all!

I got very peeved about the folk sitting in the sun, being paid to sit at home and do nothing and who then still moaned about life. Got very stressed at the onslaught.

But now, I am taking enforced 'me' time. Middle of the day, sit in the sun. Might mean I work a bit later in the evening, but that re-charge the batteries is working wonders and Im getting better sleep.

Life is very precious. Look after yourself.

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By jcace
23rd Sep 2020 18:43

Alternatively, it presents an opportunity to demonstrate to clients why they need us. Yes, it may well involve some fast learning, but let's not shrink from earning our fees.

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By Cheshire
24th Sep 2020 15:59

[quote=jcace '' but let's not shrink from earning our fees''

Spot on.

I think this is where a fair few have perhaps gone wrong.

Many have taken the view not to charge to aid clients.

Ive done a few bits without charging, but for a company Director who really was at rocking in a corner crying stage. He has since turned a corner and is now getting back on track and offered to pay me a lump sum for the help I gave him. In fact, not just an offer, he followed through.

The rest Ive been charging on an hourly basis for the extra work. Not at a huge rate compared to usual, but at least all my clients respect the fact that I am also here to earn a living (and have had no help from any of the schemes) and it sets their expectations for future work. Ive said it before, if I do not value the work I do, then no-one will.

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By AWeb72
23rd Sep 2020 18:45

Yet another day tomorrow of phone calls and emails asking for all the details when we won't even know ourselves

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By kestrepo
23rd Sep 2020 19:42

I would like a line drawn under the Furlough system. I think this would help not only on a psychological level but also because it has started to get so complicated - it really has started to become difficult to track who is doing what, where and when. The £1k claim next year seems simple in comparison. I wonder if Sunak is going to increase the amount of Guarantee Pay in the short term working rules (it is currently £30 a day for 5 days in any 3-month period).

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By MJShone
25th Sep 2020 10:47

They're coming to take me away...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPG1v61AEk

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By AWeb72
24th Sep 2020 08:38

Plus Queen's "I'm going slightly mad"

Although slightly was in May. Now it's a lot more!

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By stepurhan
24th Sep 2020 10:21

AWeb72 wrote:

Plus Queen's "I'm going slightly mad"

Although slightly was in May. Now it's a lot more!


As you wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0

Brian May could be slightly mad, but seems a good bloke. :-)

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By lionofludesch
24th Sep 2020 08:32

Not to mention that there'll be 436 versions of it before it ends.

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By bernard michael
24th Sep 2020 09:27

lionofludesch wrote:

Not to mention that there'll be 436 versions of it before it ends.

and lost of threads on AWEB - what fun!!!

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By claudialowe
24th Sep 2020 10:35

Oh I can't wait - but then sarcasm always was the lowest form of wit - going away until late Monday, won't answer my phone and emails will get my out of office......................

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By crebourret
25th Sep 2020 09:44

I must admit...I sob for a little while yesterday :(

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