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CJRS v2 DID YOUR HEART SINK

The Over Complexity of continuing Furlough

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The longer Rishi Sunak went on the more my heart sank. Having struggled and just got to grips the CJRS claim, Top Up and HP, he now could not have made the up and coming months more complicated All this comes once again on a Friday evening. We await updated details as to how to calculate "part time". And you can bet your bottom dollar it will be as complicated as HMRC can make it. I have a simple brain. Knock off Furlough what has been paid for work. Rather like a reverse top up. But no it prattles on already about "hours worked" and "normal hours worked" ( bear in mind monthly paid is 4 weeks) & having to report this and report that. And once more as a small payroll bureau I cannot absorb anymore cost. Totally over complicated. A simple reduction in Furlough % would have sufficed. I personally don't think therer is much incentive for employees to return.

 

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By SXGuy
30th May 2020 12:13

You're right. I had been doing claims for free up till now but if it starts getting complicated with splitting pay etc I'm gonna have to put a charge in.

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By NYB
30th May 2020 12:24

Meant to read "monthly is NOT four weeks)

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By Southwestbeancounter
30th May 2020 13:54

Couldn’t agree more! Announcing that at 5pm on a Friday with the further detail being announced on Friday 12th - no doubt again at 5pm!
I’d popped out for 20 mins to get provisions, hoped to have a nice weekend off, but the emails had already started by 5.30pm!!
I bet the software developers were seething too!!

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By Moonbeam
30th May 2020 17:06

Yes, it's bound to be ludicrously complicated and we still have no way of officially correcting previous errors. I shall be charging for anything extra from now on.

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By NYB
30th May 2020 17:43

The error thing is ludicrous. There must be thousands of errors from professionals and non professionals alike. I know I have made a few. Working flat out to get claims in that first time.
And from now on its not just one change. Its monthly changes. Software writers have been expecting it.
What irritated me last night was Rishi sounding so smug about the whole thing as he gives away more of our money with the end result in November that still there will be loads of redundancies. And I cant see many wanting to come back part time either. But maybe I'm just cynical

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By ohwhatnow
01st Jun 2020 12:41

totally with you on this, its going to be a nightmare. As it is i'm completely reliant on the team managers giving me the correct information about employees being put on / taken off furlough in good time for the payroll & cjrs claims. Don't the powers that be realise that finance & admin depts have been pared down to the bare minimum, we just don't have the resources for this - nor the energy to have to keep explaining to managers that couldn't give a flying "F" about the rules for claiming cjrs.
Now is the time to be trying to get people back into work, even if on a temp/part time basis - but for gods sake make the claims process a straightforward and workable system for all.

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By Alex_T
01st Jun 2020 12:52

I completely agree.. why make it so complicated. Payroll software providers must be pulling their hair out.

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By tom123
01st Jun 2020 16:09

I didn't even begin to assume my payroll software would do anything useful..

At least with spreadsheets I can see what is happening.

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By PandoraSleeps
01st Jun 2020 16:29

It is doubtless going to be awful and ridiculously overcomplicated. After the announcement was finished on the Friday I couldn't get to sleep, I genuinely felt so anxious about how difficult and time pressured it is going to be.

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