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Companies house late submission penalty

Companies house late submission penalty

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Did anyone else on here use Webfiling on 31st March 2021 to file company accounts and get the message that the accounts were being processed, only to receive an email receipt from CH dated 5th April 2021? CH have now issued penalties to both companies and have rejected the appeal. The 2nd and 5th were both bank holidays yet the receipt was sent on bank holiday monday and they didn't send the receipt on Wednesday 31st. March. Was there any shut down in the CH service between 31st March and 5th April?

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By DKB-Sheffield
27th Aug 2021 23:08

Hi Richard,

Yes a few of us had issues (see following thread)

https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/has-hmrc-online-filing-falle...

I've not been made aware of a LFP at the moment but will contact the affected client tomorrow to check!

Not sure this will help with any appeals but there was certainly an issue with filing!

Unfortunately, as was discussed at the time, CH's own system issues are unlikely to be considered a "reasonable excuse". I believe your penalty is the tip of a very large iceberg!

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By lionofludesch
28th Aug 2021 10:39

The directors' obligation is to file accounts by the deadline.

Not to have them processed by Companies House.

What evidence do you have that the accounts were filed on 31st March 2021 ?

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By Richard Cliff
28th Aug 2021 13:15

lionofludesch wrote:

The directors' obligation is to file accounts by the deadline.

Not to have them processed by Companies House.

What evidence do you have that the accounts were filed on 31st March 2021 ?

One of the jobs was brought in by the client on 29 March 2021 (31/03/2020 year end). The other job I completed on 22 January 2021( accounts for 31 March 2016 to 2020). The client sent it to me to file on 31 March 2021 and was filed at 2.00pm at HMRC but I had many other deadline filings to submit that day and the IRIS software wouldn't allow the filing to Companies House. This was filed using web-filing at 11.00pm and CH software said it was being processed. My dog had been locked in his cage all day, so he needed a walk and I came home shattered(after working 30 hours in 3 days, I am 68 btw and not a spring chicken any more) so I went straight to bed. I only found out on 9 April 2021 that CH receipt was dated 5 April 2021. But clients expect us to take the blame and work 24 hours a day for them on a pittance and expect us to pay their penalties. BTW I have had enough and I am packing in a lot of the work after 6 April 2023(MTD) and what bit I have left will be easily manageable.
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By lionofludesch
28th Aug 2021 13:46

So no evidence at all, then ?

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By mumpin
28th Aug 2021 17:51

Dogs in cages make me gloomy.

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By thevaliant
28th Aug 2021 18:05

No slight on you, but the penalty is entirely the client(s) responsibility in both instances.

One client dropped off records on 29th March 2021 for a March 20 year end? It would be very much a case of telling them to expect a £150 penalty.
The other completed in good time but asked you to hold off filing until the death? Again, very much their look out.

Penalty is nothing to do with you. Don't try and pretend it is. If they client doesn't like it, they can find someone else.

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By lionofludesch
29th Aug 2021 05:55

thevaliant wrote:

No slight on you, but the penalty is entirely the client(s) responsibility in both instances.

One client dropped off records on 29th March 2021 for a March 20 year end? It would be very much a case of telling them to expect a £150 penalty.
The other completed in good time but asked you to hold off filing until the death? Again, very much their look out.

Penalty is nothing to do with you. Don't try and pretend it is. If they client doesn't like it, they can find someone else.

This.

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By Duggimon
30th Aug 2021 09:41

IRIS gives you a submission receipt to prove when they were sent to Companies House, in addition to the confirmation once they receive and process. That should be sufficient evidence to prove you filed on time and have the penalties rescinded.

Please be sure to charge each of these idiots £150 for your time in securing the quashing of the penalties.

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By Calculatorboy
30th Aug 2021 23:15

The lesson is don't be frightened to tell clients they will definately receive a penalty unless they deliver records to you by xx/xx/xx. If they don't like it tell them they need to find another accountant.

Don't abuse yourself by being an accountant mule.

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